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Old 02-06-2012, 09:44 PM   #1411  
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FYI - Real Steel had a $5 coupon.
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Well if we continue to see more Blu-ray+DVD combos appearing before delayed DVD only skus then it would see to indicate that studios and retailers do not share your opinion of that being a mistake or else they would not continue doing it now would they?
I was wondering why Disney came out with another windowed title so soon. Oh wait....they haven't.
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Old 02-06-2012, 10:30 PM   #1413  
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I was wondering why Disney came out with another windowed title so soon. Oh wait....they haven't.
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True but, I've noticed though that the other forum has more readers. At peak hours many times more. That is fine but I like to post to strike up conversation about a subject which requires others to post. Over there very few do anymore. I've been a member here since 2008 and I seem to be Hanging out here more now.
You have? Right now I see 48 vs 52. And HDF is in the lead... Most of the time I check and HDF (this sub forum vs. that sub forum) has more people viewing. That's just what happens when biased people run something and let things pass from a group of people they prefer.
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I was wondering why Disney came out with another windowed title so soon. Oh wait....they haven't.
There just hasn't been any kid movies released!!! That's why!!

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There hasn't been another Disney film like Pirates since then. That is to say, a well-recognized and well-hyped PG-13 action film with a $241M box office.
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Now that was a long ass rant!!!
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Damn!!! Looks like the decline for packaged media is picking up steam again.
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At least this week the relationship between the DVD and BD YoYs make sense. There is 34% of YoY separating them, which is at least ballpark to normal (42%), but still favoring DVD, deviation-wise.

Not sure what to make of that 14.2% YoY for Blu-ray. It doesn't impress, considering BO is up $25 million for that week from last year. Plus the genre mix looks better for this year as well.

I'll have to check out the December carry over when I get a chance (using Nielsen First Alert of course).
Not good considering they pulled another Pirates and released only a bd combo and delayed the dvd. Looks like it backfired again!!!
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Considering that sales are up only 14%, I'll vote for Paranormal Activity underachieving. If Real Steel overachieved by that much, then it would be up more than that.

But having the top box office title for the week do only 13% on OD? That's pathetic. It got beat by a comedy doing 1/3 the box office and by two other titles that have been out for weeks, both of which did well under $104 million box office. How can you say it possibly achieved?
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Well if we continue to see more Blu-ray+DVD combos appearing before delayed DVD only skus then it would see to indicate that studios and retailers do not share your opinion of that being a mistake or else they would not continue doing it now would they?
BS!!! They are trying to FORCE consumers to upgrade. It isn't working.

They are willing to take a loss in order to market it.
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I was wondering why Disney came out with another windowed title so soon. Oh wait....they haven't.
Its January.

They have not released much of anything of note.

Lady and the Tramp is coming soon.
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BS!!! They are trying to FORCE consumers to upgrade. It isn't working.

They are willing to take a loss in order to market it.
Well that's one thing that makes sense, in that the promotional aspect of increasing household and family adoption of Blu-ray by getting more combos sold with Blu-ray Discs in the package is worth something of value in the long term.

Its undeniable that Blu-ray marketshare for family related genres has risen over the past few years. So in some sense Disney's strategy for promoting Blu-ray to families has shown some demonstrable results.

Don't also forget that a combo sale sells at a premium price over a plain DVD sale so even if fewer DVD units were sold than if the DVD sku was not delayed the higher price and unit margin of the combo BD+DVD sku helps make some of that up in revenues and profits. If the combo sells at a 25% premium that offsets some volume lost of DVD sales.

Plus there is the promotion of Blu-ray aspect to the strategy as well. By doing it selectively Disney can gain the benefits of the marketing and marketshare growth with less risk than if it went all in with all releases having DVD only delays.

Like I said, if we see more and more that other titles get the same treatment with a DVD only delay them someone must think its making more money now or in the future or else the studios would not continue doing it.

Disney for example must think the concept works for their new to Blu-ray classic animation releases as they have done it now for that class of titles for many years now all the way back to Snow White.

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This probably deserves its own thread, but was not sure if it was appropriate in this forum.

This is great news for the industry...

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MGM COMEBACK! Exclusive Interview About New $500M Revolving Credit Facility To Retire Debt & Make TV/Movies

In an exclusive interview after months of near public silence, Gary Barber and Roger Birnbaum just told me that MGM is “definitely a buyer and a significant buyer in creating content”. This is great news for Hollywood which needs more buyers in the entertainment marketplace. What’s more this is a stunning development that MGM which wwas sent into bankruptcy by crushing debt now can emerge free of all bank debt. And that Barber and Birnbaum accomplished paying off the $325M term loan in just one year of what was supposed to be a 5-year time frame. Now the pair plan to grow MGM.

“The financial community has now lent its support to a company that was bankrupt one year ago,” they told me. “Our plan of reorganization set out objectives, which all were achieved in a time frame quicker than anyone expected. That allowed us to pay off our 5-year term loan in one year. It was a lot of hard work. But the fact is MGM has not lost any liquidity. We’ve taken a fixed component of debt off our balance sheet and MGM today has no bank debt. Those days of paying through the nose are gone.

“Not only have we paid off the debt but we have a significant amount of cash on the balance sheet and we now have a full untapped revolving credit facility. The company is now completely unlevered with the ability to explore any opportunities. We have the currency to acquire assets to grow MGM. When we came into the company there were not a lot of project in developments. We started from scratch, and now we have a very interesting slate of pictures. Obviously Bond and The Hobbit led us into this new era. Now that we’ve got more buying power, people may come to us first so we won’t be left at the bottom of the barrel.
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Old 02-07-2012, 04:44 AM   #1425  
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I was wondering why Disney came out with another windowed title so soon. Oh wait....they haven't.
I will say that anyone who uses any of "The Numbers" data to form any opinion is delusional.

"The Numbers" seems solely to exist for those who have zero interest in actual data, but rather exist to push a particular PR message.
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