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Old 01-06-2012, 09:56 AM   #946  
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Yep. There are what, 50 billion DVDs out there? With billions more to follow. It will be a decades long problem for studios.
So people aren't buying digital movies because of DRM, piracy and no cross-industry support? None of these reasons really apply to the mass market iSheep that are casual tech users and merely buy whatever is cool and Apple - like the iPad. There has to be another reason why a normal mass market iPad user isn't buying movies on their iPad. The normal user that doesn't rip and convert DVDs, download torrents, know/care about DRM, and is highly loyal to Apple. The normal user that has probably spent plenty of $$ of apps - but yet very little on movies.

Never once can you admit that people aren't buying digital movies because they simply don't want to. There is little demand. Demand for ownership is free-falling, regardless of format.
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Last year DEG released their 2010 year end report today, Jan 6 (2011).

When is the year end report due for 2011? One would think today.
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Last year DEG released their 2010 year end report today, Jan 6 (2011).

When is the year end report due for 2011? One would think today.
Last year CES 2011 started in Las Vegas on January 6, 2011 with the Keynote Address on Monday evening.

This year CES 2012 starts in Las Vegas on January 9 with the Keynote Address on Monday evening.

The DEG report usually comes out on that day the first press day of CES on Monday before the trade show floor opens on Tuesday.

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So people aren't buying digital movies because of DRM, piracy and no cross-industry support? None of these reasons really apply to the mass market iSheep that are casual tech users and merely buy whatever is cool and Apple - like the iPad. There has to be another reason why a normal mass market iPad user isn't buying movies on their iPad. The normal user that doesn't rip and convert DVDs, download torrents, know/care about DRM, and is highly loyal to Apple. The normal user that has probably spent plenty of $$ of apps - but yet very little on movies.

Never once can you admit that people aren't buying digital movies because they simply don't want to. There is little demand. Demand for ownership is free-falling, regardless of format.
Oh I'm sure there are lots of people that just don't want to like you say. But I think a big reason for that is they don't have to. Most people already have a collection of their favorite movies on DVD. You really think people don't know how to rip movies for thier iPads? I see old people with stacks of copied DVDs on thier desks. Old people! I was shocked. It has spread way beyond what you think it has. All age groups are doing it now. And I see Netflix envelopes on their desks. I think people are renting and ripping. Why by digital when they are doing that? This is why I think UV will fail unfortunatly. Maybe the 56 day delays and UV together will help. Gut feeling is it won't.
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Looks like blu-ray came up a few million short of $2 billion in 2011, according to HMM.
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OD down 26% on the last week of December. Wow.
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Just you wait!!!
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Surprising. With the Blu-ray sales on recent releases, I thought it would be up. Besides, the box office favored last year by only $30 million.
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Surprising. With the Blu-ray sales on recent releases, I thought it would be up. Besides, the box office favored last year by only $30 million.
Maybe HMM has DEG press release already, and is tying off 2011.
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Updated thru week ending 12/31/11
Table of Blu-ray sales (HMM and DEG)
numbers are in (revenue) millions.

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2011 total  8604.20   -13.9%    6608.28   -20.3%    1995.92   17.7%    23.2%    9936.0 10820.9										
Week Date      OD     OD YoY      DVD    DVD YoY       BD    BD YoY  BD Share  TBO2011 TBO2010										

Q4 total    3125.11   -12.4%    2280.75   -19.5%     844.36   15.1%    27.0%    3698.4  3932.2

52  12/31    174.13   -25.6%     130.29   -28.7%      43.84  -14.7%    25.2%      64.3    95.9
51  12/24    482.11   -13.1%     368.59   -16.9%     113.52    2.2%    23.5%     205.6   303.6
50  12/17    369.89   -23.4%     280.58   -26.8%      89.31  -10.1%    24.1%     360.7   635.3
49  12/10    322.48   -14.5%     243.85   -18.6%      78.63    1.5%    24.4%     624.8   535.6
48  12/3     229.49   -23.3%     173.97   -27.5%      55.52   -6.2%    24.2%     282.0   496.0
47  11/26    388.67   -12.4%     300.39   -16.5%      88.28    5.0%    22.7%     194.5   185.3
46  11/19    166.84   -14.3%     127.57   -18.0%      39.27    0.5%    23.5%      41.6   359.0
45  11/12    183.17     2.5%     128.95   -12.0%      54.22   68.3%    29.6%     422.9   251.3
44  11/5     167.53   -16.8%     117.59   -22.8%      49.94    2.0%    29.8%     335.6   414.9
43  10/29    147.15    11.2%      96.66   -11.3%      50.49  115.6%    33.6%     204.5   108.7
42  10/22    156.94     9.5%      95.94   -17.1%      61.00  120.8%    38.9%     370.0    56.0
41  10/15    152.92    -2.4%     106.50   -14.1%      46.42   42.2%    30.4%     343.3   233.0
40  10/8     183.79     9.3%     109.87    -9.4%      73.92   57.7%    40.2%     248.6   257.6

Q3 DEG      1742.79    -4.0%    1320.93   -14.7%     421.86   58.0%    24.2%
Q3 total    1667.09    -4.9%    1298.39   -13.9%     368.70   49.9%    22.1%    1806.3  1609.5										

39  10/1     152.58   -14.3%     109.97   -20.4%      42.61    7.1%    27.9%     352.1   382.7
38  9/24     153.60     5.0%     108.69   -12.5%      44.91  103.6%    29.2%     169.3   112.5
37  9/17     164.69    14.0%     107.37   -14.2%      57.32  197.2%    34.8%     190.8   165.2
36  9/10     128.84     0.0%     102.29   -10.5%      26.55   82.9%    20.6%     189.3    60.3
35  9/3      119.04    -9.5%     100.87   -13.7%      18.17   23.5%    15.3%      65.6    95.1
34  8/27     109.34   -13.1%      91.74   -16.6%      17.60   11.5%    16.1%      12.6    45.3
33  8/20     124.53    -4.4%     101.11   -12.8%      23.42   63.3%    18.8%     100.8    81.2
32  8/13     122.13    -1.8%      98.44    -9.5%      23.69   51.8%    19.4%     118.0   143.9
31  8/6      139.66     1.4%     111.78    -3.6%      27.88   27.9%    20.0%     189.8   133.5
30  7/30     108.78   -18.3%      89.06   -20.2%      19.72   -8.7%    18.1%      56.8   177.2
29  7/23     120.50    -1.9%      97.25    -9.4%      23.25   49.9%    19.3%      88.3    72.7
28  7/16     118.09    -4.8%      94.88   -13.5%      23.21   61.7%    19.7%     267.8    94.7
27  7/9      105.31   -16.7%      84.94   -22.7%      20.37   22.9%    19.3%       5.1    45.2										
		
Q2 DEG      1831      -15.0%    1434      -18.8%     397       9.4%    21.7%
Q2 total    1791.55   -12.2%    1402.94   -16.7%     388.61    9.1%    21.7%    2314.8  2422.0

26  7/2      127.11   -12.3%      96.32   -21.6%      30.79   39.4%    24.2%     102.3   181.4
25  6/25     123.25    -7.7%      98.18   -12.8%      25.07   20.1%    20.3%     205.4    85.8
24  6/18     149.89   -11.2%     114.68   -17.7%      35.21   19.5%    23.5%     208.2   142.8
23  6/11     130.81   -13.6%     103.23   -18.6%      27.58   12.3%    21.1%     305.0   152.6
22  6/4      118.16   -34.1%      96.17   -32.8%      21.99  -39.1%    18.6%      15.8   386.8
21  5/28     113.83   -16.6%      91.37   -22.9%      22.46   24.9%    19.7%     154.4    87.9
20  5/21     111.98   -15.2%      91.84   -18.9%      20.14    7.2%    18.0%      99.8   185.7
19  5/14     111.02   -23.6%      90.00   -26.8%      21.02   -6.2%    18.9%     155.6   113.6
18  5/7      122.05   -25.2%      99.74   -29.5%      22.31   -7.7%    18.3%     141.5   106.1
17  4/30     106.99   -40.6%      86.94   -39.6%      20.05  -44.5%    18.7%       0.0   120.5
16  4/23     217.30    -8.3%     171.47    -0.3%      45.83  -29.4%    21.1%     187.5   841.3
15  4/16     184.50    48.7%     134.40    24.8%      50.10  205.3%    27.2%     314.8     8.1
14  4/9      174.66    21.6%     128.60     5.9%      46.06  107.5%    26.5%     424.5     9.4
										
Q1 DEG      2068      -20.0%    1661      -25.0%     407      10.0%    19.7%		
Q1 total    2020.45   -23.2%    1626.20   -28.4%     394.25    9.4%    19.5%    2116.5  2857.2

13  4/2      192.11   -36.0%     144.16   -44.6%      47.95   20.1%    25.0%     300.9   461.1
12  3/26     135.54   -49.8%     110.21   -50.9%      25.33  -44.1%    18.7%     218.0   335.6
11  3/19     138.72   -46.5%     112.58   -49.6%      26.14  -27.1%    18.8%     154.2   534.3
10  3/12     146.96   -24.4%     116.11   -30.8%      30.85   16.5%    21.0%     177.0   247.2
9   3/5      174.59    -7.2%     132.93   -15.4%      41.66   34.1%    23.9%     112.3   258.8
8   2/26     160.96     4.5%     130.35    -2.5%      30.61   50.7%    19.0%     258.0    74.9
7   2/19     172.68    -8.1%     143.99   -12.7%      28.69   25.0%    16.6%      86.2    80.1
6   2/12     172.00   -19.4%     145.34   -23.1%      26.66    8.9%    15.5%     224.0   211.0
5   2/5      158.26   -16.7%     131.08   -20.8%      27.18   11.1%    17.2%      23.0   114.6
4   1/29     151.21   -14.6%     122.05   -20.9%      29.16   27.6%    19.3%     201.2   151.6
3   1/22     131.62   -16.3%     107.98   -21.0%      23.64   14.8%    18.0%      60.7    61.0
2   1/15     135.49   -17.3%     108.51   -23.9%      26.98   27.0%    19.9%     143.3   137.8
1   1/8      150.31   -14.1%     120.91   -19.5%      29.40   18.6%    19.6%     157.7   189.2

OD = optical disc (DVD + Blu-ray)
YoY = year over year percentage change
TBO = total box office
BD = Blu-ray
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Old 01-09-2012, 07:10 PM   #958  
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HMM for Blu-ray YoY fell down to 17.7% for the entire year. The DEG should report it a few percent higher though.

Blu-ray was down the last 7 weeks by an average of 2.5%. Not a good way to finish off the year, especially considering that they were the highest volume weeks.

OD took a beating for the year, down close to 14%. That's a nasty decline.

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Maybe HMM has DEG press release already, and is tying off 2011.
Probably. I don't see why they would rush to get this week out on a Monday if they didn't have it.
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Oh gees.

Looking more and more like BD has, or will peak very soon. Those numbers are pretty bad. There is no real excuse for them either. They had plenty of sales and big enough titles to be...somewhat decent.
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