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Old 12-26-2011, 03:12 PM   #691  
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Kinda hard to understand how they could believe that with a simple glance at their data.

2011 will be down, and down by quite a bit. Meanwhile, Blu-ray will likely come in at right around 20% YoY growth.
I would also point out that unless they are showing specific data to support it, they have no leg to stand on.

If it is all quotes, that publication (Home Media Magazine) has had zero issues with publishing false or altered quotes to support those who directly pay them for PR support.
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I could have sworn I saw over a million UNITS sold.
That was worldwide. They said it sold a little over 500k in the US in its first week.

Could be that it has sold over a million units by now though. That would be $80-$90 million in revenue.
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That was worldwide. They said it sold a little over 500k in the US in its first week.

Could be that it has sold over a million units by now though. That would be $80-$90 million in revenue.
More than most new releases.
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That was worldwide. They said it sold a little over 500k in the US in its first week.

Could be that it has sold over a million units by now though. That would be $80-$90 million in revenue.
So let's say that the DEG reports a 22% increase in Blu-ray for the year.

That would mean that Star Wars alone accounted for about 1/4 of all of Blu-ray growth in 2011.
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So let's say that the DEG reports a 22% increase in Blu-ray for the year.

That would mean that Star Wars alone accounted for about 1/4 of all of Blu-ray growth in 2011.
That would be one way to put it. If you take out Star Wars from the 2011 catalog lineup, 2011 still beats the 2010 catalog hands down. 2010 wasn't a very good year for Blu-ray catalog. I'm sure 2011 was helped by more than just Stars Wars, in terms of catalog. Output was up over 50%.
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Just saw this quote over at hmm.http://www.homemediamagazine.com/con...nate-ces-25969



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"CEA research has tablet computer growth at nearly 160% for 2011, with more than 26.5 million units shipped, producing $14 billion in revenue. Smartphone sales are expected to grow 45% by the time the year’s finished, producing $23 billion in revenue."
Kind of hard for home video to compete with that. We are not watching any OD on those devices. Or EST either.
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Agreed. Not only because of that analysis, but because results cannot be "skewed" by actual performance.


Releases can have a positive or a negative impact on a particular reporting period, but the results are what they are. Factual information on revenue. Q1/Q2/H1 results were exactly what they were. Results that showed very weak YoY growth for those periods.
That's right, but a fact that some people/publications apparently have difficulty grasping nonetheless. And especially considering fact that Avatar conversion rate was relatively low, there's not even that false leg to stand on anymore.

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I know. I can't believe anyone could take what they say with a grain of salt. There is absolutely no sign of it turning around. It is almost as if they dont mind lying completely in order to "SELL" the format to consumers.

I don't take it lightly when companies LIE intentionally to consumers. In fact I am going to make it a point to tell everyone they are lying, because they 110% are doing so.
Wow, they are saying that the HV market is turning around? I'll have to check that out. News to me...
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Wow, they are saying that the HV market is turning around? I'll have to check that out. News to me...
Oh yeah. OD is doing huge right now...
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Sure looks like Star Wars was important to me, wich was released in the 3rd quarter.

http://www.homemediamagazine.com/ind...r-review-25970

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Blu-ray Disc sales in the United States will reach about 115 million units in 2011, compared with 85 million units in 2010 — spearheaded by the Star Wars: The Complete Saga boxed set release, according to Futuresource Consulting.
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That would be one way to put it. If you take out Star Wars from the 2011 catalog lineup, 2011 still beats the 2010 catalog hands down. 2010 wasn't a very good year for Blu-ray catalog. I'm sure 2011 was helped by more than just Stars Wars, in terms of catalog. Output was up over 50%.
Looking forward to Wings from Paramount in a few weeks! One catalogue that I have been waiting a long time for release!
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Bruce: Do you have the 2010 version of this that you can post?

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Updated thru week ending 12/10/11
Table of Blu-ray sales (HMM and DEG)
numbers are in (revenue) millions.

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2011 total  7578.07   -13.1%    5828.82   -20.0%    1749.25   22.0%    23.1%    9305.4  9786.1										
Week Date      OD     OD YoY      DVD    DVD YoY       BD    BD YoY  BD Share  TBO2011 TBO2010										

Q4 total    2098.98    -8.5%    1501.29   -17.7%     597.69   26.8%    28.5%    3067.8  2897.4

49  12/10    322.48   -14.5%     243.85   -18.6%      78.63    1.5%    24.4%     624.8   535.6
48  12/3     229.49   -23.3%     173.97   -27.5%      55.52   -6.2%    24.2%     282.0   496.0
47  11/26    388.67   -12.4%     300.39   -16.5%      88.28    5.0%    22.7%     194.5   185.3
46  11/19    166.84   -14.3%     127.57   -18.0%      39.27    0.5%    23.5%      41.6   359.0
45  11/12    183.17     2.5%     128.95   -12.0%      54.22   68.3%    29.6%     422.9   251.3
44  11/5     167.53   -16.8%     117.59   -22.8%      49.94    2.0%    29.8%     335.6   414.9
43  10/29    147.15    11.2%      96.66   -11.3%      50.49  115.6%    33.6%     204.5   108.7
42  10/22    156.94     9.5%      95.94   -17.1%      61.00  120.8%    38.9%     370.0    56.0
41  10/15    152.92    -2.4%     106.50   -14.1%      46.42   42.2%    30.4%     343.3   233.0
40  10/8     183.79     9.3%     109.87    -9.4%      73.92   57.7%    40.2%     248.6   257.6

Q3 DEG      1742.79    -4.0%    1320.93   -14.7%     421.86   58.0%    24.2%
Q3 total    1667.09    -4.9%    1298.39   -13.9%     368.70   49.9%    22.1%    1806.3  1609.5										

39  10/1     152.58   -14.3%     109.97   -20.4%      42.61    7.1%    27.9%     352.1   382.7
38  9/24     153.60     5.0%     108.69   -12.5%      44.91  103.6%    29.2%     169.3   112.5
37  9/17     164.69    14.0%     107.37   -14.2%      57.32  197.2%    34.8%     190.8   165.2
36  9/10     128.84     0.0%     102.29   -10.5%      26.55   82.9%    20.6%     189.3    60.3
35  9/3      119.04    -9.5%     100.87   -13.7%      18.17   23.5%    15.3%      65.6    95.1
34  8/27     109.34   -13.1%      91.74   -16.6%      17.60   11.5%    16.1%      12.6    45.3
33  8/20     124.53    -4.4%     101.11   -12.8%      23.42   63.3%    18.8%     100.8    81.2
32  8/13     122.13    -1.8%      98.44    -9.5%      23.69   51.8%    19.4%     118.0   143.9
31  8/6      139.66     1.4%     111.78    -3.6%      27.88   27.9%    20.0%     189.8   133.5
30  7/30     108.78   -18.3%      89.06   -20.2%      19.72   -8.7%    18.1%      56.8   177.2
29  7/23     120.50    -1.9%      97.25    -9.4%      23.25   49.9%    19.3%      88.3    72.7
28  7/16     118.09    -4.8%      94.88   -13.5%      23.21   61.7%    19.7%     267.8    94.7
27  7/9      105.31   -16.7%      84.94   -22.7%      20.37   22.9%    19.3%       5.1    45.2										
		
Q2 DEG      1831      -15.0%    1434      -18.8%     397       9.4%    21.7%
Q2 total    1791.55   -12.2%    1402.94   -16.7%     388.61    9.1%    21.7%    2314.8  2422.0

26  7/2      127.11   -12.3%      96.32   -21.6%      30.79   39.4%    24.2%     102.3   181.4
25  6/25     123.25    -7.7%      98.18   -12.8%      25.07   20.1%    20.3%     205.4    85.8
24  6/18     149.89   -11.2%     114.68   -17.7%      35.21   19.5%    23.5%     208.2   142.8
23  6/11     130.81   -13.6%     103.23   -18.6%      27.58   12.3%    21.1%     305.0   152.6
22  6/4      118.16   -34.1%      96.17   -32.8%      21.99  -39.1%    18.6%      15.8   386.8
21  5/28     113.83   -16.6%      91.37   -22.9%      22.46   24.9%    19.7%     154.4    87.9
20  5/21     111.98   -15.2%      91.84   -18.9%      20.14    7.2%    18.0%      99.8   185.7
19  5/14     111.02   -23.6%      90.00   -26.8%      21.02   -6.2%    18.9%     155.6   113.6
18  5/7      122.05   -25.2%      99.74   -29.5%      22.31   -7.7%    18.3%     141.5   106.1
17  4/30     106.99   -40.6%      86.94   -39.6%      20.05  -44.5%    18.7%       0.0   120.5
16  4/23     217.30    -8.3%     171.47    -0.3%      45.83  -29.4%    21.1%     187.5   841.3
15  4/16     184.50    48.7%     134.40    24.8%      50.10  205.3%    27.2%     314.8     8.1
14  4/9      174.66    21.6%     128.60     5.9%      46.06  107.5%    26.5%     424.5     9.4
										
Q1 DEG      2068      -20.0%    1661      -25.0%     407      10.0%    19.7%		
Q1 total    2020.45   -23.2%    1626.20   -28.4%     394.25    9.4%    19.5%    2116.5  2857.2

13  4/2      192.11   -36.0%     144.16   -44.6%      47.95   20.1%    25.0%     300.9   461.1
12  3/26     135.54   -49.8%     110.21   -50.9%      25.33  -44.1%    18.7%     218.0   335.6
11  3/19     138.72   -46.5%     112.58   -49.6%      26.14  -27.1%    18.8%     154.2   534.3
10  3/12     146.96   -24.4%     116.11   -30.8%      30.85   16.5%    21.0%     177.0   247.2
9   3/5      174.59    -7.2%     132.93   -15.4%      41.66   34.1%    23.9%     112.3   258.8
8   2/26     160.96     4.5%     130.35    -2.5%      30.61   50.7%    19.0%     258.0    74.9
7   2/19     172.68    -8.1%     143.99   -12.7%      28.69   25.0%    16.6%      86.2    80.1
6   2/12     172.00   -19.4%     145.34   -23.1%      26.66    8.9%    15.5%     224.0   211.0
5   2/5      158.26   -16.7%     131.08   -20.8%      27.18   11.1%    17.2%      23.0   114.6
4   1/29     151.21   -14.6%     122.05   -20.9%      29.16   27.6%    19.3%     201.2   151.6
3   1/22     131.62   -16.3%     107.98   -21.0%      23.64   14.8%    18.0%      60.7    61.0
2   1/15     135.49   -17.3%     108.51   -23.9%      26.98   27.0%    19.9%     143.3   137.8
1   1/8      150.31   -14.1%     120.91   -19.5%      29.40   18.6%    19.6%     157.7   189.2

OD = optical disc (DVD + Blu-ray)
YoY = year over year percentage change
TBO = total box office
BD = Blu-ray
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Bruce: Do you have the 2010 version of this that you can post?

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Not right now. Maybe later I'll get one up. But what I'll probably do is append to the existing one, because after all, I plan to use the existing one for 2012 and beyond.
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Not right now. Maybe later I'll get one up. But what I'll probably do is append to the existing one, because after all, I plan to use the existing one for 2012 and beyond.
Awesome! Thanks!
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So its looking likely that Blu-ray will not have any week this year that matched last years high durring Dec. The weekly chart that Kosty posts shows that blu-ray is ready to peak. I just dont see us hitting $110 Million in any week this year.
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