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Old 03-23-2012, 11:36 AM   #2116  
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Jeff Bewkes, CEO of Time Warner:

Time Warner CEO Jeff Bewkes: TV And Movie Industries “Need To Fix” On Demand



Jeff Bewkes disagrees with you 100%. He made an impassioned plea to rally the industry to move online less than a month ago. He stressed that everyone from retailers to content provides must move forward with digital initiatives with great urgency.



Jeff Bewkes Exhorting Retailers and Studios to Embrace Digital Delivery
He wants everything including Blu-ray and UltraViolet that can make his company money now and in the long term. That's all of the above and he is in no hurry to kill off packaged media either.

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Old 03-23-2012, 11:43 AM   #2117  
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That's what it comes down to Silverado. Actions are what reveal any true agenda. I've got about 300 Blu-rays I think (my sig is way out of date), probably Gizmo has way more than that. Kind of hard to hate something and keep buying it at the same time. I don't need a PS3 (not much of gamer and I already have a couple of 360s), and I don't buy Apple products because you have to buy their software and I'm used to 3rd party support with Windows and Google (on the Droid). Going to Apple to me would be like moving from the US to North Korea. So I guess you can call me an Apple or PS3 hater because I would never buy those things.
The only reason I have a PS3 was for use as a Blu-ray player and Netflix streaming device and I've enjoyed my chubby PS3 since 1Q 2007 when I virtually created a dual format player when I sat it next to my HD XA2 on my home theater rack.

I'm never been a Mac guy but I have to play well with them but since Apple computers have to live in a PC world for business that's never a problem. A iPhone has always seen overkill to me for my use but i'll get a new iPad for media consumption and Internet browsing on the go later this year as its the best tablet out there. But I'm in no hurry about it.
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Old 03-23-2012, 11:54 AM   #2118  
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Buying movies on Blu-ray does not clear one of an agenda. You will gladly befriend the kid with glasses--but make fun of them when your friends are around.

There are a large number of attacks that are quickly abandoned at the first sight of a counterargument. The way I see it, there mist be something along the lines of an agenda causing people to say things that aren't well thought out.
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Old 03-23-2012, 11:59 AM   #2119  
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He wants everything including Blu-ray and UltraViolet that can make his company money now and in the long term. That's all of the above and he is in no hurry to kill off packaged media either.
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Warner Bros. has struck a multi-year U.K. distribution deal with Lovefilm, Amazon's subscription entertainment service, significantly changing the structure of home entertainment windows.

It stretches the window for DVD rental by post to 60 days after DVD retail and video-on-demand, from its existing 28 days.

This is part of a wider move by Warner to prioritize digital over physical distribution.
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Old 03-23-2012, 12:05 PM   #2120  
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Buying movies on Blu-ray does not clear one of an agenda.
Especially considering that since 2008, if you want a new movie in HD on a disc, you HAVE to buy bluray, since the other format died. Half of the people that commented did not support bluray until it was clear HD DVD was dead. They were essentially forced into the format via the death of their preferred format.

I could talk trash about gas companies all day long and still have to buy their product because they are the only game in town. The fact that I buy their gas every week doesn't mean I like them. I buy their gas because I have to - there is no other option. Just like there is no other option for HD on disc besides bluray. So I agree - mere ownership does not clear one of an agenda, when there is only one format to own new HD movies on - bluray.
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Bewkes is in for a rude awakening if he thinks people will jump through the hoops that is UV to buy movies that you can rent for $1-2 down the street, or wait to stream for pennies on the dollar.

Or buy even cheaper on an optical disc.

I never believed that the drop in home video revenue was associated with some pent up demand for the general public wanting to own movies digitally, and I don't believe it now.

Hollywood needs to make better movies, and they need to understand that there has been a major transition to cheaper content (i.e. Netflix, Redbox, Hulu). And they need to understand that there is this whole Internet thing that competes with time, money, and resources.

Digital ownership absolutely needs to happen, and the model needs to be seamless, and user friendly. I would not classify UV as either of those things right now. It seems to be a studio free for all.
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Old 03-23-2012, 12:16 PM   #2122  
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Buying movies on Blu-ray does not clear one of an agenda. You will gladly befriend the kid with glasses--but make fun of them when your friends are around.

There are a large number of attacks that are quickly abandoned at the first sight of a counterargument. The way I see it, there mist be something along the lines of an agenda causing people to say things that aren't well thought out.
Not a very good analogy (unless he's buying the kid's glasses and his clothes too), but who cares? What it comes down to that it's OK to attack a product but not another poster. Positive and negative opinions are equally welcome here but not personal attacks. If people want to hate on Blu-ray or digital, then it's just as good as those who want to rave about it. If one can't counter an argument without making a personal attack then one should not reply at all.
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Old 03-23-2012, 12:20 PM   #2123  
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Since I own hundreds of Blu rays, I had an agenda I didn't know about
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That's what it comes down to Silverado. Actions are what reveal any true agenda. I've got about 300 Blu-rays I think (my sig is way out of date), probably Gizmo has way more than that. Kind of hard to hate something and keep buying it at the same time.
I fill up my gas tank every week. I still hate the oil companies.

Problem is - I can't get gas anywhere else, so I am kind of stuck buying their product.

Catch my drift?

Buying a product from a company does not preclude hating that company if that company is the only company that provides the product. It all depends on how bad you want the product.

You guys have no where else to buy HD movies on a disc - you have to buy blurays if you want HD on a disc.

Remember how you didn't buy blurays from 2006-2007? When you weren't forced to? Because you had another option?

When that option died, you were left with one just option. Since your desire to own HD movies didn't die, you had to buy blurays. You had no other choice. Just like I have to buy gas. Doesn't mean I don't hate Exxon.

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Old 03-23-2012, 12:21 PM   #2124  
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Not a very good analogy (unless he's buying the kid's glasses and his clothes too), but who cares? What it comes down to that it's OK to attack a product but not another poster. Positive and negative opinions are equally welcome here but not personal attacks. If people want to hate on Blu-ray or digital, then it's just as good as those who want to rave about it. If one can't counter an argument without making a personal attack then one should not reply at all.
Bruce, I agree with you and am certainly guilty of attacking the poster..

That said, I have seen people on this forum pile on Kosty time and again and I rarely see these posts deleted or users infracted (at least that I am aware). Perhaps things have changed recently, but it got so bad that I stopped even visiting this site for several months.

It seems when it comes to Kosty the rules don't often apply.
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Old 03-23-2012, 12:36 PM   #2125  
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The Hunger Games is off to a good start, its going to do well on home video


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Games' nabs $19.7 mil at record midnight bow

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Final returns from Thursday midnight screenings of "The Hunger Games" came in at $19.7 million, marking the highest midnight take for a non-sequel pic and validating predictions of an outsized hit for Lionsgate's biggest bet yet.

More bullish estimates late last night had pegged midnight grosses for the film in the $25 million-$30 million range, though according to bizzers, some of the larger theater chains contributed less than expected.

The closest midnight comparisons for "Hunger Games" are "The Dark Knight," which earned $18.5 million in midnights, and "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince," with $22.2 million.

Neither of those films provide much clarity in predicting three-day grosses for "Hunger Games," since "Dark Knight" bowed during the summer with $158 million -- the second-highest opening of all time. "Half-Blood Prince," meanwhile, bowed on Wednesday and in three days collected $77 million.

Bizzers are estimating a $120 million- $125 million three-day haul for "Games." But by no means is a commensurate bounty in the bag.


Why? For starters, "The Hunger Games" has an older audience that will catch it when crowds subside. Also, the film's March launchpad doesn't have the same breadth of out-of-school teens and tweens as a summer or holiday bow, though a portion of Stateside students are on spring break.

In addition to its non-sequel midnight benchmark, "Hunger Games" scored the biggest late-night take for Imax ($1.3 million), outside of the "Harry Potter" franchise. It's also the seventh-largest midnight grosser ever on an industrywide scale.
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Going to see Hunger Games tomorrow. The first two books were actually pretty good, and this is a great book to bring to the theater. We need more of these Hollywood!
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Old 03-23-2012, 12:52 PM   #2127  
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Going to see Hunger Games tomorrow. The first two books were actually pretty good, and this is a great book to bring to the theater. We need more of these Hollywood!
Going to see it this weekend as well.

The Hunger Games will do Twilight Saga female home video numbers with additional sales from science fiction action viewing males like you and I.

With that coming out later this year with the final movie in the Twilight Saga as well still to come that's a nice addition to the box office strength coming to home video this fall.

BTW oopsie on me posting that Hunger Games update in this thread, I meant to place it in the 2012 box office tracking thread. Its there now as well.
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Bruce, I agree with you and am certainly guilty of attacking the poster..

That said, I have seen people on this forum pile on Kosty time and again and I rarely see these posts deleted or users infracted (at least that I am aware). Perhaps things have changed recently, but it got so bad that I stopped even visiting this site for several months.

It seems when it comes to Kosty the rules don't often apply.
Well I'm glad to see any contribution you make here Ack. I really value your opinion. Things are quite different here now than in the early post-format war era, and even more so than during the format war itself. I make a habit now of deleting attack posts (many attack posts on Kosty have been deleted the past several months), and try my best to be equally fair to everybody. Thanks for chiming in.
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Well I'm glad to see any contribution you make here Ack. I really value your opinion. Things are quite different here now than in the early post-format war era, and even more so than during the format war itself. I make a habit now of deleting attack posts (many attack posts on Kosty have been deleted the past several months), and try my best to be equally fair to everybody. Thanks for chiming in.
Thanks Bruce, keep it up!
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Old 03-23-2012, 04:01 PM   #2130  
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HD DVD. Apple. 360.

Pretty much anything but PS3/bluray.

Please act less surprised.
Your posts seem to indicate your agenda is all Bluray all the time and Down with anyone that doesn't see it your way. Do I have that right?
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