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Old 08-16-2009, 05:46 PM   #1096
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Cklone180 never bought from you, however he is entitled to his opinion just like everyone else is. Further, his opinion is based on actual interaction with the company, which is you.

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Isn't this proof enough
BTW some of us are originally from South Carolina so we would appreciate some southern hospitality.
Here's the deal, it's not proof enough. You have to be VERY naive to not understand this. Let me explain an e-bay scam that was in my region. This company would sell PCs on e-bay, and they would make sure that they bid at, or above retail value. They "bought" many themselves improving their rating, but once and a while the odd real customer got them, thus improving their rating. They then in turn offered to sell the same PC to anyone who bid on it for BELOW retail value, thus circumventing e-bay's protection. They'd get the cash, and shipped no PC. They would have a ton of feedback, mostly from new users, but there were enough real users mixed in that they would point to who got the goods.

Now, this is obviously not you since you have the pay on delivery model, but the fact remains that your behavior here raised some red flags. Pointing to your BBB rating as if that indicated something knowing full well you've not been in operation as a retail business for 1 year is a little bit deceitful to say the least. And for some reason you refuse to cite which company you ran before this.

None of this doesn't mean you are not a reputable company. But this does raise eyebrows.
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Old 08-16-2009, 06:00 PM   #1097
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If it were, I'd be dead many times over! It wasn't merely the COD that I was referring to. It was the fact that one doesn't have to pay for it until after the set is up and running, and you can inspect both the cosmetic and performance aspects in your home.
This is fine. COD is nothing new. However it fell out of fashion in the 60s and 70s. I'll grant you that this is pretty unique perk in this day and age for a big ticket item, with the exception of cars which you do get to test drive before you buy.

But to be honest, given credit card protection and consumer protection, paying first is not a big deal.

I point out the Costco vs ECTV. Costco had a good price and 90 day return and a year warranty. ECTV has 7 day return, and no default warranty beyond that. For me, if you are saving 20%, I'd consider it. And to be fair, there are some models that ECTV do have that are 20% off one BB store, though this is not typical.

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If there's any other company that offers this, I've never come across them.
Given ECTV uses a courier service with this ability, it can't be that unique. I'll grant you unique for HDTVs though. I've only found "one" company who does COD, and that's via UPS so obviously it's threshold delivery.

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To call satisfied ECTV customers "idiots" is a little over the top and uncalled for, IMHO.
I think the only "idiot" was the lady who bought a Pioneer, where the factory warranty was void. Since Macks would pickup the extended warranty, and given the cost savings was actually VERY high, it's obviously worth it.

But up until THIS point they were promoting themselves as a factory authorized dealer, and only removed the claim after I pointed it out on this forum. I don't know if they made the claim for Pioneer gear.
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Old 08-16-2009, 06:28 PM   #1098
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I point out the Costco vs ECTV. Costco had a good price and 90 day return and a year warranty. ECTV has 7 day return, and no default warranty beyond that. For me, if you are saving 20%, I'd consider it. And to be fair, there are some models that ECTV do have that are 20% off one BB store, though this is not typical.
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Costco was another place I checked, prior to purchasing my set. But they only carried the 2008 model and I wanted the current ones (Panasonic and Samsung). ECTV had both, with the Sammy at around 35% off MSRP! Too good to be true, I thought, which is how I stumbled across this thread. Happily, this was that welcome case where it was not too good to be true...and I saved over $700 on the TV in the process. The Panasonic G10 also had a savings of over 25%! My only regret is that I couldn't afford both!
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Old 08-16-2009, 06:43 PM   #1099
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Isn't this proof enough
BTW some of us are originally from South Carolina so we would appreciate some southern hospitality.
Yes Film11 joined on 11-02-2004 and made a post that day but didn't start posting other than that one first post back on 11-02-2004, so he went almost 5 years before his second post.

Don't get me wrong, as Film11 has been a good poster lately and I enjoy his posts but in this particular instance, he really only really started posting since 7/31/09. so his join date is rather deceiving since so many years past since that first post. So technically he has been a member longer than me but was not active for over 4.5 years after that one post.

I am glad he is posting now but your use of his join date is deceptive IMO.
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Old 08-16-2009, 07:20 PM   #1100
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I continue to hold my original theory, that these new members are either employees or employee(under different accounts). Until proven differently
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Yes Film11 joined on 11-02-2004 and made a post that day but didn't start posting other than that one first post back on 11-02-2004, so he went almost 5 years before his second post.

Don't get me wrong, as Film11 has been a good poster lately and I enjoy his posts but in this particular instance, he really only really started posting since 7/31/09. so his join date is rather deceiving since so many years past since that first post. So technically he has been a member longer than me but was not active for over 4.5 years after that one post.

I am glad he is posting now but your use of his join date is deceptive IMO.
We did not not look how many posts film11 made in the past 5 years,and besides you are missing the point cklone180 accused us of posting fake reviews on this thread and he stated "
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The mere fact that he joined in 2004 even if he had never posted in 2004 is proof that he is not an employee.
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We did not not look how many posts film11 made in the past 5 years,and besides you are missing the point cklone180 accused us of posting fake reviews on this thread and he stated ""
The mere fact that he joined in 2004 even if he had never posted in 2004 is proof that he is not an employee.
I took what cklone180 stated as HIS opinion and he is entitled to it as long as he states it as his OPINION and not as a fact.

I never thought Film11 was your employee and I don't anyone else has either, but your point is understood.
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Old 08-16-2009, 10:06 PM   #1102
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Costco was another place I checked, prior to purchasing my set. But they only carried the 2008 model and I wanted the current ones (Panasonic and Samsung). ECTV had both, with the Sammy at around 35% off MSRP! Too good to be true, I thought, which is how I stumbled across this thread. Happily, this was that welcome case where it was not too good to be true...and I saved over $700 on the TV in the process. The Panasonic G10 also had a savings of over 25%! My only regret is that I couldn't afford both!
Oh totally. If I found my set for 20% off B&M price, I would certainly consider mail order. I shopped around, and IIRC the price difference in my case where there and abouts of 8.8%, i.e. local sales tax, for an extra year and 90 day local refund/exchange. But if you're actually talking 35% off B&M price, and I could verify manufacturer warranty, I would have likely done it.
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Old 08-17-2009, 01:26 AM   #1103
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We did not not look how many posts film11 made in the past 5 years,and besides you are missing the point cklone180 accused us of posting fake reviews on this thread and he stated ""
The mere fact that he joined in 2004 even if he had never posted in 2004 is proof that he is not an employee.
Actually, it's not proof at all. It "suggests" that he isn't, but it's hardly what I'd call proof. I don't think anyone actually thinks they are your employee, but you do seem to have a gross misunderstanding of what "proof" is. I can come up with equally plausible explanations. Could be a brute force password attack, could be a defunct e-mail that could easily be recreated and new password issued, or could be an old account that happens to be an employee now. I'm not suggesting any of these are true, or even likely, but this should illustrate my point.
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Old 08-17-2009, 01:14 PM   #1104
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C'mon folks...what do you need...our W-2 forms? Personally, I would have hoped that home-theater buyers would welcome with open arms a company that is better-than-competively priced as well as allowing home inspection before purchasing, and (so far at least) unanimous customer approval/satisfaction. (Yes, I know that some have doubts about that...but then, where are the negative custoner experiences?) Instead, buyers who post positive experiences are accused of being on-the-take. Puh-leeeeze!

As for my join date, I've been around various sites since the laserdisc days, though most of my posts were on AVS. My postings here are due to the fact that I was looking for info on ECTV. (Been a while since I posted on AVS too.) It may be months or years before I post on another thread. (Please, no tears.) This one was of specific interest to me. But it's a moot point, as I now have had first-hand experience with ECTV. All I can say is what I've already reported...they are not scammers, they deliver on what they promise, their customer service is great, and I am in no way affiliated with them. Whether other issues that some may have preclude patronizing the store, that is each individual's perogative. As we all know, other more well-known stores have issues that one can point to as reasons not to buy from. That is a choice that everyone has a right to make for themselves. I'm only saying that, for anyone who does choose to purchase an item from ECTV, they will not be disappointed.
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I believe you Film11, and I am sure everyone else does as well, so do not worry about that. IGP was just coming up with alternative possibilities for the comment made by ECTV. He even said he didn't think it was likely.

I think you are one of the more credible posters about ECTV and your posts are welcome and appreciated.
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Old 08-17-2009, 02:04 PM   #1106
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and besides you are missing the point cklone180 accused us of posting fake reviews on this thread and he stated ""
Well! I am shocked. You almost made me fall out of my seat! How dare you accuse me of 'accusations', when in reality I was stating what could only be considered as an opinion. OPINION. Opinion. Wow, saying that a few times may clear up any mis-education present with those of you who 'came from s carolina.' It has also been found to repair defects in thoughtless comments, misguided paranoia and involuntary bowel movements. It does, however, contain side effects relating to increased knowledge, enhanced perception and undue correctness. Try it out.... opinion, o-p-i-n-i-o-n, OPINION. Hmmm. Didn't quite cure you, did it? Keep trying, because failure only results when you give up. I have experienced many people who have had to keep this practice going for years to accomplish thier goals.

I was just responding to the person that was stating fanbois were not present. Fact: They are here. Come on. I am born and raised in the south, and I know hospitality, and ECTVs behavior is far from it.

I have stated several times that I am all for small business. I am, no joke. But, there are caveats. This wierd business practice of ECTVs still leads me down a path where several uneducated, hardly well-dressed men await 'john' or 'mark' so they can unload merchandise before they return to their warehouse and have to share proceeds with their boss. Hard to believe people fall for that kind of nonsense everyday.

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C'mon folks...what do you need...our W-2 forms?
Even a W-2 would not preclude the possibility that one is moonlighting elsewhere, but even so I don't think that necessary. I don't think it's likely that the folks at ECTV engaged in this activity. From my dialog with them they are quite computer illiterate. Wow, they do price comparisons by hand, with a mouse, for crying out loud.

ALL I was trying to point out was a gross misunderstanding of what proof was, and threw out other plausible conspiracy theories.
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From my dialog with them they are quite computer illiterate. Wow, they do price comparisons by hand, with a mouse, for crying out loud.
Yep. That was my last point, illiterate. You just pin-pointed the computer part! LOL!

Anywho, how can a company be so uneducated on the platform they base their business upon? Seems strange.......
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ok guys...so after looking around on here and reading the very colourful exchange of words i went ahead and ordered a 40in sony bravia....KDL-40S5100

it came up to just about 753...after the cash/cheque discount.(2%)...i placed the order on sunday 16th august.....received a call yesterday evening saying i would get my tv between 12 and 2 today (Tuesday18th august).....i'll post again as to the outcome...(tv condition etc....

i was never asked for any credit card info...so i'm not worried about fraud on that subject....

keep you posted....
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yea sure, I tried buying from them too, they have nothing in stock, why dont you call them and ask for yourself,
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