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Old 07-15-2008, 08:17 AM   #1  
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I have a PS3 but I am trying to ease down on the use of the laser and want to pick up an HD DVD player for upscaling and a few HD DVDs. Which is the best choice for me? Is the HD DVD add-on even worth it for the upscaling?
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Old 07-15-2008, 08:38 AM   #2  
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The best upscaler is the XA2, but you're going to pay at least a couple hundred for it. Your next best bet would be the A35, but this will also cost you a couple hundred. I have two A2s myself and they can be had on eBay for less than $100 and they upscale SD DVDs better than my PS3 in my opinion. Another feature about the HD DVD players that the PS3 lacks is the counter on the front the player; I find it rather conveinent to see how much time is left for a movie without having to hit a few buttons as with the PS3.
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Yea I want to stay under $100, is the A2 on the same level as the add-on or is the add-on a big stay away?
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Yea I want to stay under $100, is the A2 on the same level as the add-on or is the add-on a big stay away?


I own both the A2 and the add-on and would recommend the A2 for SD DVDs all day.
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I own both the A2 and the add-on and would recommend the A2 for SD DVDs all day.
I concur on that one. My A2 definitely upconverts better than my PS3 so I would venture to say that it upconverts better thanthe add-on as well.
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All the HD DVD players are quite scarce now a days including the A2. No longer can you scarf 1 of these beauties for under a hundo anymore (at least from what I can see). Unless you can find one of those old time deals or on E-bay, you would be better off getting a good Oppo player for $200 or so IMO. I did see a couple going on e-bay for around $100 + shipping.

And the addon is not a bad upscaller. I have both the A2 and addon and the A2 is better, but the addon is decent and probably on par with the PS3. I had it connected via VGA however. It will not upconvert SD DVD's via component TMK (VGA and HDMI only)..
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If you don't mind picking up a customer return HD-A20 or HD-A30 and already have a remote and accessories, those are very affordable at the auction sites, at least when I picked some up there were quite a number of them. I like both players really well and think both do a good job with DVD, better than my HD-A1.

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If you don't mind picking up a customer return HD-A20 or HD-A30 and already have a remote and accessories, those are very affordable at the auction sites, at least when I picked some up there were quite a number of them. I like both players really well and think both do a good job with DVD, better than my HD-A1.

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Well I just got back from vacation and the HD-A20 I bought on eBay from 2nd Turn Electronics would not play any HD DVDs. It will play SD DVDs but not ANY HD DVDs. It just tries to load for about 5 minutes and then displays an error message that the disc is not a DVD format disc.

This is what my HD-A2 has been doing so I thought I would get another HD-A20 which was in my bedroom and working great. Damnit I have all the bad luck lately with electronics.

To the OP, I would get an A20 over an A30 myself, but with my luck I am thinking about giving up this HT hobby because of my bad luck.
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Well I just got back from vacation and the HD-A20 I bought on eBay from 2nd Turn Electronics would not play any HD DVDs. It will play SD DVDs but not ANY HD DVDs. It just tries to load for about 5 minutes and then displays an error message that the disc is not a DVD format disc.

This is what my HD-A2 has been doing so I thought I would get another HD-A20 which was in my bedroom and working great. Damnit I have all the bad luck lately with electronics.

To the OP, I would get an A20 over an A30 myself, but with my luck I am thinking about giving up this HT hobby because of my bad luck.
You have had some bad luck, unbelievable. I know that a certain percentage aren't going to work so I should probably thank you for grabbing the ones that don't work, including my share. I haven't gotten a bad HD DVD player yet. My first Blu-ray player, the Samsung BD-P1000, did break under warranty and I received a refund. All HD DVD players have worked great, only firmware updates have been needed.

2ndTurn gives a period after receipt to check the player. I don't know what you can do, but you should notify them the player is DOA ASAP. It is funny that one of the main HD DVD supporters here, you, has had bad luck with HD DVD hardware but good luck with Blu-ray hardware while one of the main Blu-ray supporters here, me, has had great luck with HD DVD hardware and bad luck with his first Blu-ray player. I am sure it is not so funny that you can laugh, but others might be able to.

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You have had some bad luck, unbelievable. I know that a certain percentage aren't going to work so I should probably thank you for grabbing the ones that don't work, including my share. I haven't gotten a bad HD DVD player yet. My first Blu-ray player, the Samsung BD-P1000, did break under warranty and I received a refund. All HD DVD players have worked great, only firmware updates have been needed.

2ndTurn gives a period after receipt to check the player. I don't know what you can do, but you should notify them the player is DOA ASAP. It is funny that one of the main HD DVD supporters here, you, has had bad luck with HD DVD hardware but good luck with Blu-ray hardware while one of the main Blu-ray supporters here, me, has had great luck with HD DVD hardware and bad luck with his first Blu-ray player. I am sure it is not so funny that you can laugh, but others might be able to.

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I can see the humor in it, but it is very frustrating at the same time. Your observation has been something I have been thinking about too.

I did send them a RMA request today when I came back and checked it out. Funny thing is they boxed the thing about as bad as I have EVER seen. It was a big box with wrinkles/creases throughout the box and they bubble wrapped it with the player upside down in the box to boot.

Who have you been buying your HD DVD players from?
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Check this out - http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listi...814766-4103927
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I can see the humor in it, but it is very frustrating at the same time. Your observation has been something I have been thinking about too.

I did send them a RMA request today when I came back and checked it out. Funny thing is they boxed the thing about as bad as I have EVER seen. It was a big box with wrinkles/creases throughout the box and they bubble wrapped it with the player upside down in the box to boot.

Who have you been buying your HD DVD players from?
I got two from 2ndTurn, both were packed really well and both looked and worked great, at least to the extent I have checked them so far. I am not sure where they came from since Best Buy has been selling their own customer returns on eBay so my best guess is Circuit City. I bid on several Best Buy HD DVD players up for auction on eBay, but didn't win any. The uBid seller that has had a bunch is likely a uBid affiliate, I think the name was Supplier's Warehouse and I bet some are available there now. All of these liquidators have a short time frame to check the player out. The job of packing yours sounds subpar obviously although it is hard to determine if damage in transit is the cause of the issue.

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If the OP wants so get as low of cost as possible then there is a Toshiba A2 on eBay for a 'Buy It Now" price of $70 and it is a very good upscaler.

There are plenty more on auction there even some XA2s (one with 22 HD DVDs included) and Onkyo HD DVD players, Onkyo's version of the XA2, which is the best upscaler available right now.

There are even a few Samsung BD UP5000 dual players on the site for reasonable prices and with those you can play all HD formats and it is an excellent upscaler to boot (same chip set as the XA2?).
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I was surprised to see the HD-XA2 poll at AVSForums indicating about 25% of the players, with over 400 responding have the shutdown bug. I haven't used mine enough to know, but I am certainly concerned if over 100 owners have the problem. Intermitten shutdown during playback for no reason would ge a serious annoyance. Over 10% of respondents in the DV-HD805 poll for the recent acquisition from Shop Onkyo are claiming defective or DOA out of the box. I haven't done thorough testing of either my HD-XA2 or DV-HD805 players and I better do it before warranty expires. I did respond in the HD805 poll indicating no problem after brief test, but I need to make it my primary player for a period for both DVD and HD DVD and make sure.

It is one thing to have back up players in the closet for future use, but would be another to have back up players that don't work.

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If the OP wants so get as low of cost as possible then there is a Toshiba A2 on eBay for a 'Buy It Now" price of $70 and it is a very good upscaler.

There are plenty more on auction there even some XA2s (one with 22 HD DVDs included) and Onkyo HD DVD players, Onkyo's version of the XA2, which is the best upscaler available right now.

There are even a few Samsung BD UP5000 dual players on the site for reasonable prices and with those you can play all HD formats and it is an excellent upscaler to boot (same chip set as the XA2?).
Yes the Samsung BD-UP5000 uses Silicon Optix Reon, same as the Toshiba HD-XA2, Onkyo DV-HD805, and Samsung BD-P1200. I have three of the four, not owning the dual format player and all work great although the BD-P1200 has been a journey with some firmware releases making it not work acceptably for either Blu-ray or DVD. At version 2.4, I am yet to find any issue for either format and it has been my primary player for both for months now. I think the BD-UP5000 is working great for DVD now as well, although some issues remain for Blu-ray based on what I am reading.

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