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Old 06-02-2007, 05:06 PM   #1  
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Today I saw commercials for two movies I want to see. Considering how slim the pickings have been for the past few months, that's remarkable in itself. And guess what. BOTH will be released on BluRay.
When is HD-DVD gonna start being released day and date with the SD versions? I think they're gonna blow their hardware lead if the continue to leave us the crap selection we currently have. I went to Best Buy today and left empty-handed. And their list of upcoming releases for the rest of the year aren't too inspiring either!
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Amozon or online stores will have huge selection. be patient things will change.
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Old 06-02-2007, 06:28 PM   #3  
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It's much better now than when we first purchased our players. Neither camps have every movie coming out in both SD and HD versions simultaneously. The way I plan on improving the situation is to buy a 2G BD player once they get affordable ($300-$400).
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Last year most releases were action movies, however this year there's a normal mix of genres, so maybe that's (partly) why you think the movies aren't that good. Blu-ray has more day and date releases, but right now HD DVD has about 50% more movies in the release pipeline. I really don't care if the movie is catalog or new release, if I haven't seen it, it's new to me. Besides catalogs are cheaper (unless you netflix, of course). Remember Blu-ray is dominated by the PS3 demographic, which is a younger crowd, and the studios take that into account when choosing movies to release in HD.
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The longer both stick around AND consumer interest increases, it would behoove the industry to just keep stamping out more of both disks.

If the trend continues neither format should fall to the low numbers Beta did against VHS during those years (and yet still stuck around for a while). Just an observation.
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Old 06-02-2007, 08:46 PM   #6  
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Well, I think Warner Bros. is nuts if they don't release the next Harry Potter DVD in HD-DVD. As far as Amazon, I've checked out all the movies available in HD-DVD. It's not just the selection at Best Buy/Circuit City. As far as not having previously seen catalog releases, if I didn't want to watch them the first time I won't want to watch them now, Hi-Def or not. But thanks for all the responses!
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I believe the HP movies are going to be released later this year.
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It would make sense that the studios are holding their "big sellers" for the fourth quarter of 2007 when the demand will be greatest . . . and the price of the players lowest.

We already know that Blade Runner is coming in October. Based on the 4K telecine article, Bonnie and Clyde will probably make the release list. As will Dirty Harry and other Clint Eastwood favorites.

Summer has been historically the time people go TO the movies - not buy them. So how many new TV shows will be placed on the air in say July?

HD DVD is not going to blow it. On the contrary, they know sales of players is way up and there is no chicken/egg syndrome here - you have to have a player first (of course you also need an HDTV) which has also had it's big sales again in 4th qtr.

As has been said - be patient - the best is yet to come.
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I don't see how you can say that there isn't much available on HD DVD. I just picked up Flags of Our Fathers, Letters From Iwo Jima, The Matrix, The Fountain and The Road Warrior. 3 of those are new releases and many more are soon to be released.
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This is a piece of an article that questions how well HDD is doing. Look at the sales numbers for two of the movies purchased by Stew:

"Either way, the numbers of discs sold for both are downright embarrassing for BOTH formats. One must wonder why the studios even bother with HD
optical media in light of these sales figures. If one looks further into the sales figures for the other movies release like Flags of our Fathers and Letters from Iwo Jima, one sees sales about equal for both at less than 6,500 per for both Blu-Ray and HD for Iwo JIma and less than 2,800 for Flags. "

He also aludes to Fox pulling their releases not only due to the breaking of the encryption key - but due to the lack of sales.

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http://www.tvpredictions.com/whip060207.htm
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that article is ridiculous no matter which format succeeds one will eventually succeed as long as companies stick with blu-ray and HDDVD and don't prematurely give up. every year more HDTVs sell and once you watch high def movies you can't go back to DVDs
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no matter which format succeeds one will eventually succeed as long as companies stick with blu-ray and HDDVD and don't prematurely give up.

Thank you, Captain Obvious.
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This is a piece of an article that questions how well HDD is doing. Look at the sales numbers for two of the movies purchased by Stew:

"Either way, the numbers of discs sold for both are downright embarrassing for BOTH formats. One must wonder why the studios even bother with HD
optical media in light of these sales figures. If one looks further into the sales figures for the other movies release like Flags of our Fathers and Letters from Iwo Jima, one sees sales about equal for both at less than 6,500 per for both Blu-Ray and HD for Iwo JIma and less than 2,800 for Flags. "

He also aludes to Fox pulling their releases not only due to the breaking of the encryption key - but due to the lack of sales.

Here is the entire article:

http://www.tvpredictions.com/whip060207.htm
Just read the article. Here's what I think. What BOTH formats need to do is advertise the fact that standard DVD's look near HD quality on their players. Even if there were no HD releases there is a clear benefit in upgrading your DVD player, especially as prices continue to fall. At the same time, only release the super blockbusters day and date with their standard DVD release, until such time as the number of players sold justifies releasing catalog movies in HD.
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I get tired of all the worrywarts and gloom and doom about low sales. Only 20% of the market even have HDTVs so of course sales are going to be low. These new format are still DVD-like (like Boby says, "if it looks like a duck..") and it's inevitable that one or both replace DVD. There is absolutely no hurry when and at what rate this occurs either. So excuse me for yawning when I hear another article/poster point out how low sales are in comparison to DVD.
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Most of you are to young to remember the beta vs vhs wars. This is different in many ways. Everyone will eventually have a HDTV and HDDVD player. There is more then enough money out there to support both formats. The rest of the country will catch up soon with our passion for HDTV. Remember: The only problem with patience is the time it takes to achieve it.
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