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Old 06-01-2006, 02:14 PM   #1  
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Default HD DVD too new. Wait until dust settles.

I love HD programming and want HD DVDs, but I am going to wait until there is one left standing. I have read the specs on each and have determined that Blu Ray while more technically sophisticated is not available. HD-DVD is out and this might be the deciding factor as to which format wins out. I personally hope Blu-Ray wins as it seem to have the upper hand technically and storage wise, but only time will tell. I want HD DVDs, but I will wait until all the details are ironed out.
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I believe the vast majority will wait till there is a clear winner. How long that will take is anybody's guess.

Personally, I've decided to wait till this holiday season once there is more title selection and possibly price drops (or at least holiday sales), before deciding.
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Old 06-01-2006, 03:02 PM   #3  
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The dust is not going to settle for a long time. I think waiting a year until both camps have a decent price drop is a good idea. But waiting until there is a clear winner, well that may not happen for a long time. HD-DVD can sell 100,000 but as soon as the PS3 comes out there will be more Blu-Ray drives in homes than HD-DVD. And yes I am aware that the Blu-Ray drive in the PS3 is not as good as a standalone but the HD-DVD players are exatcly up to par (1080p) yet anyway. Both camps will have all of bugs to work out over the next year.

But don't let the price scare you off of either side. New technology always cost a ton of money. Remember when DVD players were $500 or plasmas screen TVs were $20k. I speculate that in a year both will be close to half the cost and by holiday season of 2007 even cheaper.
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Old 06-01-2006, 03:59 PM   #4  
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I love HD programming and want HD DVDs, but I am going to wait until there is one left standing. I have read the specs on each and have determined that Blue Ray while more technically sophisticated is not available. HD-DVD is out and this might be the deciding factor as to which format wins out. I personally hope Blue-Ray wins as it seem to have the upper hand technically and storage wise, but only time will tell. I want HD DVDs, but I will wait until all the details are ironed out.
It might be three or four year or never for there to only be one standing. Yes you have read the specs but read them again for the first generation players, the Blue ray is not more technically sophisticated as you have stated. Storage wise HD-DVD is already using double sided 30 GB discs and Blue ray will only use single sides 20-25 GB discs, HD-DVD is using more advanced compression, and unlike Blue ray it has upgradeable firmware via the INTERNET and unlike BR has built in audio decoders for the new advanced audio codecs. Look I am not a salesmen for HD-DVD and I don't care which one you end up buying, but if you like HD like you say the $499 HD-DVD is a great bargain, there is just no reason to wait. The HD-DVD is not buggy like some have stated, remember the firmware is INTERNET upgradeable so the Toshiba you buy today will be just about as good as the one you buy next year. The have already released a firmware upgrade for it in japan and the US upgrade should follow shortly.
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Old 06-01-2006, 04:55 PM   #5  
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While most people wait and wait, I have been and will continue to enjoy my HD DVD player. It has worked flawlessly and has been visually stunning. (Easily the best HD I have seen) This format war isn't going to be over in a year. Try 3-4 years. That is 3-4 years that many will enjoy HD DVD. (and Blue Ray for that matter) The kicker with this is that let's say BR wins, I still have an excellent upconverting DVD player. At half of the price of BR, I got a bargain. Come on how many of you use your CE products more than four years. (OK, maybe your TV) For me $499 is a great price for 4 years of enjoyment. Holy crap the first gen DVD players were 500 to 2000 bucks! This is a no brainer. Now if you have really tight finances then I certainly can understand that. I was in college once too. Anyway not a flame, I'm just really enjoying my HD DVD and many of you could be doing the same. (Although 1000 bucks is much more of a risk IMO)
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Old 06-01-2006, 05:07 PM   #6  
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Default I have changed my position some - will wait for universal player

My original position was like stchman - wait till a winner is declared. Now I think I will wait till the kinks are ironed out of the first generation players AND a reasonably priced universal player comes on the market. No idea of when that will happen, but it will probably happen long before the war is over.
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Old 06-01-2006, 06:36 PM   #7  
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My original position was like stchman - wait till a winner is declared. Now I think I will wait till the kinks are ironed out of the first generation players AND a reasonably priced universal player comes on the market. No idea of when that will happen, but it will probably happen long before the war is over.
That's probably not a bad strategy, the high def media (HD-DVD and Blu ray) are being released at a snails pace anyway. Samsung is stating they will have a universal player out before the end of 2006, but that is a little optimistic in my opinion.
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Old 06-01-2006, 08:39 PM   #8  
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That's probably not a bad strategy, the high def media (HD-DVD and Blu ray) are being released at a snails pace anyway. Samsung is stating they will have a universal player out before the end of 2006, but that is a little optimistic in my opinion.
I'll get a universal once one hits the market.
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Old 06-01-2006, 09:06 PM   #9  
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I'm going to wait for holographic players.
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Old 06-01-2006, 10:24 PM   #10  
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The holographic players will not come out till everyone has bought a high def DVD player. And there will be two competing formats, both incompatible with eachother.

People will argue in favor of one or the other before the specs or units are released. This discussion will get heated, with lots of name-calling and arguing over minor differences that affect a tiny percentage of the households.

The two formats will both offer "smellvision" - you will be able to smell the salt air in ocean scenes. There will be a big arguement over how much better the progressive smell (continuous smell released) is over the interlaced smell (1080 short smell bursts per minute). And televisions without the latest HDMI connection will only get faint whiffs of smell rather than the full, high def smell with newer sets.

The general public will be totally ignorant of the war until Walmart begins selling the sets. Their loop showing a high def hologram of an apple pie with full smell will generate a lot of interest. The biggest problem will be that the set will not be properly adjusted, so the pie will smell like cheap perfume.
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Old 06-02-2006, 05:27 AM   #11  
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Anyone is welcome to wait if they prefer.

But I've been enjoying mine for only $500. At that price I can afford to wait as long as it takes for another purchase.

It'll probably be another year before Bluray standalone players get near that.
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Old 06-02-2006, 05:50 AM   #12  
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I'll get a universal once one hits the market.
And while you sit and wait I will have enjoyed glorious HD-DVD for at least a year while you watch blurry, old regular TV. Despite Samsungs claims, I don't expect to see a Univerasal player until this time around next year. Patience is not always a virtue, sometimes those with patience miss the boat. Life is short dude, enjoy it while you can.
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Old 06-02-2006, 07:25 AM   #13  
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And while you sit and wait I will have enjoyed glorious HD-DVD for at least a year while you watch blurry, old regular TV. Despite Samsungs claims, I don't expect to see a Univerasal player until this time around next year. Patience is not always a virtue, sometimes those with patience miss the boat. Life is short dude, enjoy it while you can.
Jeez- don't jump the guy for being shrewd. God bless folks like Revolv and yourself for being early adopters and running out to get the first thing that hits the market- people like you help these brands get off the ground and get started. That's great- but it isn't for everybody. If Viper waits a year to get his first player as opposed to rushing out to buy an early model HD-DVD or BR player in 2006, his reward will be a more reasonably priced player with fewer first-gen technical caveats, and a much more robust selection of titles to pick from than what's going to be available this fall, especially if he goes with a hybrid player.

Viper's obviously not feeling the pressure that you guys are to have an HD player right this very instant. If not having HD movies on discs isn't gnawing away at him night and day, he'd be damn smart to wait for either a hybrid player, or at least to wait for the 2nd-gen players to come out. I don't see what boat he's missing by waiting 6 months to a year.
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Old 06-02-2006, 07:40 AM   #14  
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I was going to wait as well before I bought a hi def DVD player but couldn't resist. Compared to the amount of money I've spent over the last three years on HD equipment, HD-DVD has been the best bargain so far (enjoyment per $).
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Old 06-02-2006, 07:42 AM   #15  
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Yeah. This is one HELL of a player for 500 bucks. My second one should be arriving next week. Why settle for just one?
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