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Old 01-05-2008, 10:16 AM   #1  
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Not one to emerge from the corporate shadows to comment on rumours – beyond the obligatory ‘we don’t comment on rumours’ statement – American software giant Microsoft has this week broken form by responding to speculation surrounding the imminent unveiling of the HD-DVD-equipped ‘Ultimate Xbox 360.’


While Net chatter has suggested that the ‘Ultimate’ model of the Xbox 360 is to be announced by outgoing Microsoft chairman Bill Gates at next week’s CES 2008 show in Las Vegas, the Redmond-based tech company has moved to crush the growing rumours underfoot.

"We have reiterated multiple times since launching the Xbox 360 HD-DVD Player that we have no plans to integrate an HD-DVD player into the Xbox 360," a Microsoft spokesman said in a GameSpot report. "We feel that offering the drive externally is the best way to give consumers the ultimate choice to create their own high-definition experiences."

Interestingly, Microsoft’s reiteration arrives alongside news that Hollywood media behemoth Warner Bros has decided to sign its HD movie content exclusively to Blu-ray from May of 2008. Blu-ray is the native high-definition format hosted as standard in the PlayStation 3 videogame console.

According to Warner Bros, consumers "have clearly chosen Blu-ray" in the HD format war, and a two-format landscape is only promoting "consumer confusion and indifference toward high definition."

Those keen to keep the rumours alive to some degree will note that Microsoft has stated that the ‘Ultimate’ Xbox 360 will not be announced during CES 2008, just that it definitely won’t contain an onboard HD-DVD player.

According to the initial burst of speculation, which was sparked by a report in Stuff magazine, the ‘Ultimate’ Xbox 360 – should it exist – will arrive with 1080p, HDMI video output, built-in Wi-Fi connectivity, cool-running 65nm architecture, a "near silent" fan system, and a rather hefty 320GB hard drive.

Bill Gates is scheduled to give his final CES keynote as Microsoft Corp. chairman tomorrow (Sunday, January 06) at 6:30pm.

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Guess we'll see soon enough, seems obvious for them not to do it at this point. Maybe he'll annouce it with a Blu ray drive though
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Guess we'll see soon enough, seems obvious for them not to do it at this point. Maybe he'll annouce it with a Blu ray drive though
Not possible unfortunately, the 360 can't handle decoding AVC at high bitrates.
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yea, but wouldnt an add on do the trick?
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Not possible unfortunately, the 360 can't handle decoding AVC at high bitrates.
How so? BD's don't look any better than HD-DVD's do and HD-DVD's look just as good on the X360, or on a stand alone. BTW, your avatar is a bit creepy
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well that blows my idea of ever picking up a 360
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well that blows my idea of ever picking up a 360
Why? Nobody in their right mind would buy a 360 for an HD-DVD player. You can pick up a REAL HD-DVD player for $199. If you wanted better video games, THEN you'd buy a 360, but certainly not for the HD-DVD drive
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Why? Nobody in their right mind would buy a 360 for an HD-DVD player. You can pick up a REAL HD-DVD player for $199. If you wanted better video games, THEN you'd buy a 360, but certainly not for the HD-DVD drive
i know i rarely use my add on anymore now that i got my toshiba a35. the only time it get play is when i got a ton of company and someone wants to watch a movie that i have seen. i just throw on the movie downstairs and everyone else parties upstairs.


as for the o.p. it's not coming and i'm also a Mexican born in canada. sorry but MS seems to love teasing things over the net and then denying them only to announce it later. even after then released picks of the HD DVD addon and elite models they where of course denied right up until the conference. we will know sometime this week.
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Why? Nobody in their right mind would buy a 360 for an HD-DVD player. You can pick up a REAL HD-DVD player for $199. If you wanted better video games, THEN you'd buy a 360, but certainly not for the HD-DVD drive
i dont know, i guess i like to get my moneys worth, so i wouldnt mind having a game system and HDDVD player in one. i do know that i can get a HDDVD player (even at my walmart) for $199.99 and i know i can get a 360 for 400 or 500 (same price as the PS3). however i wouldnt buy the 360 JUST for its games nor would i buy the 360 JUST for a HDDVD player.. but i would buy one for both together at the same price, i wouldnt buy the console and the add on seperate as it would cost more in total(plus take more more space lol). i never said i would never buy one though, however in the 2yr life span that the 360 has been out, theres only a very small handful of games i wouldnt mind to have(rent more then likely though), i also wouldnt bother paying for their service when i get it for free via PSN, i would also be afraid that it would break down on me as their failure rates where high, although i think they fixed this and offered the 3yr warranty, does the 3yr warranty apply to ALL new 360;s now? or is it something speicial you have to get/paid for?
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If I were microsoft right now, I wouldn't be integrating HD DVD after the announcements this past week, at least not until the dust settles on the situation.
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Microsoft isn't putting themselves in a position that will tie them to a given format. You all know this.

There is a huge move for digitial download distribution going forward, but Microsoft knows the infrastructure isn't quite there yet.

For those familiar, HDi was developed using ECMAScript and an XML dialect that can be ported over to altenerate formats. The recent turn of events isn't what Microsoft had originally anticipated, but I can tell you that are contingency plans put in place for announcements such as we saw this week at CES. That's all I have to say.

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Microsoft isn't putting themselves in a position that will tie them to a given format. You all know this.
And I think that was smart, and has served both consumer and M$ well. Just from a gaming point of view, more often than not, Ive walked away feeling satisfied with game lengths (of the handful Ive completed). Ill be watching MGS4 closely to see if sony takes advantage, beyond fluff, of all that extra storage.

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There is a huge move for digitial download distribution going forward, but Microsoft knows the infrastructure isn't quite there yet.
And that surprises me. When considering, its M$ we're talking about here, hd downloads havent improved as quickly as I had anticipated. Download speeds have improved, sure, but prices have remained the same and hd downloads still take too long to, 'delay for five minutes and then stream till the end' (and I have a fast ISP). Its a bummer, M$ has a great lineup, and an easy-to-use delivery system, but execution is woefully lacking. I hope they solve it soon, as there will always be movies I want to rent, but not necessarily own.
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Not possible unfortunately, the 360 can't handle decoding AVC at high bitrates.

How so? BD's don't look any better than HD-DVD's do and HD-DVD's look just as good on the X360, or on a stand alone. BTW, your avatar is a bit creepy
Saying that higher bitrates won't make the picture look any better has nothing to do with whether or not hardware can decode higher bitrates. I don't know if that statement was true or not and I don't know if the XBox 360 is incapable of decoding high bitrate AVC, but if it isn't, it isn't and the fact you don't think higher bitrates results in better picture quality wouldn't change that fact. I don't think it is true by the way, but I don't really know. If it is true, I don't know why a new XBox 360 with built in Blu-ray drive couldn't include chips that could decode it.

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It would be nice to see an HDDVD drived 360 just for large format games. I know everyone has said they'd never do it but the segacd games that required the 32x processor were some of the best. I knew a bunch of people who bought both just for the games.
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It would be nice to see an HDDVD drived 360 just for large format games. I know everyone has said they'd never do it but the segacd games that required the 32x processor were some of the best. I knew a bunch of people who bought both just for the games.
Of course they would never make games on HD DVD discs, there are about 16,000,000 million or so XBox 360 consoles in service that couldn't play them. Following the Sega lead is not likely a strategy Microsoft will choose, but that may just be my opinion. I believe Microsoft will make choices that won't confuse the market. A game with XBox 360 on the box, better play in all XBox 360 consoles. Abandoning the current customer base with newer and better games that only play on an XBox 360 HD DVD game console, would be dumb this quickly as well.

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