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Old 03-08-2018, 04:16 PM   #31
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lol im just joking, you're a piece of shit
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Old 03-15-2018, 04:38 AM   #32
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What could possibly go wrong with arming teachers?


Seaside High teacher accidentally fires gun in class, students injured
One 17-year-old boy suffered moderate injuries when fragments from the bullet ricocheted off the ceiling and lodged into his neck


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We've had the ability to carry on campus in Utah for over a decade, we've never had any major incidents. I think one teacher accidently knocked her gun off the toilet paper dispenser while she was taking a shit or something and it went off and 187'd the toilet.

There are students and teachers and janitors carrying all over the state. (in colleges for the former.. obviously. It requires a conceal carry license, which requires a 4-6 hour class. I think it should require some range time too, but eh.)
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Old 03-16-2018, 04:10 PM   #34
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We've had the ability to carry on campus in Utah for over a decade, we've never had any major incidents. I think one teacher accidently knocked her gun off the toilet paper dispenser while she was taking a shit or something and it went off and 187'd the toilet.

There are students and teachers and janitors carrying all over the state. (in colleges for the former.. obviously. It requires a conceal carry license, which requires a 4-6 hour class. I think it should require some range time too, but eh.)
there are only 14 people in Utah, none of your experiences apply to the rest of the world
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Old 05-06-2018, 08:33 AM   #35
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NEWTON, Mass. ― A thirtysomething man sought to buy a rifle here last September, and if he had been living in almost any other part of the country, he could have done so easily.

His record was free of arrests, involuntary psychiatric commitments or anything else that might automatically disqualify him from owning firearms under federal law. He could have walked into a gun store, filled out a form and walked out with a weapon in less than an hour.


But he couldn’t do that in Massachusetts because the state requires would-be buyers to get a permit first. That means going through a much longer process and undergoing a lot more scrutiny.

Each applicant must complete a four-hour gun safety course, get character references from two people, and show up at the local police department for fingerprinting and a one-on-one interview with a specially designated officer. Police must also do some work on their own, searching department records for information that wouldn’t show up on the official background check.

If the police come to believe an applicant is a possible threat to public safety, they can refuse to grant the permit. And that is what happened in the case of this man from Newton.

Police records showed eight visits to his home from 2008 to 2012, each time in response to calls from family members concerned about his behavior. On one occasion, according to the police account, the man had punched a picture frame and lacerated his hand; another time, he had been wielding a knife and threatening to commit suicide. Officers took the man into protective custody after three of the visits, the reports said, and at nearly all of them he was intoxicated.

This December, following a procedure that Massachusetts law lays out, Newton’s chief filed a five-page memo with a state district court. It summarized the incident reports, one by one, and concluded that the man “had exhibited or engaged in behavior that could potentially create a risk to public safety.”

The man, who declined to comment for this article and whose name HuffPost is not publishing, challenged the police decision in court, as the law allows applicants to do. A written filing stated that he has completed treatment for alcohol addiction, as a physician independently confirmed. It also said that he has a steady job and noted that there have been no incidents since 2012.

It’s crazy that some states just give out these guns with very few requirements.William Evans, Boston Police Commissioner
A district judge considered the argument and, a few weeks later, upheld the police department’s decision. The man from Newton is now appealing that decision. But whether or not he ultimately gets his permit, his story illustrates just how aggressively Massachusetts regulates gun ownership. No other state requires a permit for any kind of gun purchase while also giving police some discretion to deny those permits.

The combination could help explain why the state’s mortality rate from firearms incidents is relatively low
, according to some experts who have studied these types of laws. That makes the Massachusetts permit system a potential model for legislation in other states, or even the country as a whole, at a time when the massacre at a high school in Parkland, Florida, has put gun violence back on the political agenda.
It would seem not giving every Tom, Dick, and Harry a gun reduces gun deaths - whoulda thunk?
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Perhaps the Aussies, it seems they knew too
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It would seem not giving every Tom, Dick, and Harry a gun reduces gun deaths - whoulda thunk?
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Perhaps the Aussies, it seems they knew too
Basic common sense. The easier you make it for a crook to steal something the more likely he will succeed. The easier you make it for a future assassin to purchase a gun the more likely he will succeed.
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It would seem not giving every Tom, Dick, and Harry a gun reduces gun deaths - whoulda thunk?
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Perhaps the Aussies, it seems they knew too
And then he bought a plane ticket to Texas Ė anywhere in Texas Ėgets his gun, checks it in airplane appropriate carrying case, and no longer has to worry about the gun laws.

I say this a bit tongue-in-cheek as I don't know if non-residents can just walk in and buy a gun.
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Perhaps they SHOULD HAVE taken the cars away; in 2016, 37,461 people were killed in car accidents-- that's over 100/day EVERY DAY!. There are about 62 million motor vehicles in the USA.

There are OVER 300 million firearms in the USA and there were nearly 11,000 gun-related homicides in the US in 2016.

a Car is 15 times more likely to kill than a firearm. Everyone knows that a licensed/registered firearm can't hurt anyone so it's important to do that. But nearly ALL those killer cars were licensed/registered.

Is is it really ALL about saving lives? Seriously, is it? I don't think so. For every single gun murder, there were about 120 babies murdered in the womb. Anyone care or even think about that?

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Perhaps they SHOULD HAVE taken the cars away; in 2016, 37,461 people were killed in car accidents-- that's over 100/day EVERY DAY!. There are about 62 million motor vehicles in the USA.
Guns are made to kill. Vehicles are made to transport people and things.

In 2015, there were 12,979 firearm induced homicides. There were a total of 17,793 homicides. 72.9% of ALL homicides in the United States were committed with a firearm. So that other 4,814 includes people being killed by knives, bats, hands, feet, elbows, tree limbs, axes, bricks, large stones, arson, and of course... cars.

Take your very poorly thought out justification and "statistics" elsewhere.
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There's so much bullshit here I don't know which pile to address first.


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Perhaps they SHOULD HAVE taken the cars away; in 2016, 37,461 people were killed in car accidents-- that's over 100/day EVERY DAY!. There are about 62 million motor vehicles in the USA.
First, the horseshit.

The following is obvious to most people. But clearly I'm dealing with a facts-optional conservative here, so I'll spell it out clearly. First off, the lie. There are around 275 million registered vehicles in the US, not 62 million. Oh but that totally water down your bullshit argument of vehicles being 15x more likely to kill, wouldn't it? Too bad. Secondly, almost all of these vehicle deaths are "accidents," not homicides. And they are the cost of having our level of transportation. 37k dead in one year to provide 300 million people with the convenience provided by their vehicles. What benefit to firearms grant to society in exchange for all the death they cause? They make a few people feel tough?

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There are OVER 300 million firearms in the USA and there were nearly 11,000 gun-related homicides in the US in 2016.
Next, the steaming pile of cow shit

*sigh* In your first paragraph, you talk about vehicle related DEATHS (accidents), and then in your next paragraph, you compare that number to firearm HOMICIDES? Truth is, there were over 33,000 firearm DEATHS (including accidents and suicides) in 2016, which is the actual number you should be comparing to vehicle deaths. So really there a pretty similar number of total deaths caused by firearms and vehicles to a similar number of registered guns/vehicles. But what about the number of registered owners? There is roughly one registered gun per person, but only a third of people own guns. More than a third of people own a vehicle. So right there, your argument has just been busted open. The number of registered guns and vehicles isn't as important as the number of registered owners, because the owners are the ones using them. There are far more registered vehicle owners than registered gun owners, and similar death numbers, which means the deaths per registered owner is higher for guns. And that's just deaths, accidental or otherwise. Do you want to compare vehicle related homicides to gun homicides? I guarantee you the gun homicide number is at least 1,000x higher.

You thought you could sneak that by us... Nope, you're dealing with people smarter than you. That type of misdirection won't work on us.


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a Car is 15 times more likely to kill than a firearm. Everyone knows that a licensed/registered firearm can't hurt anyone so it's important to do that. But nearly ALL those killer cars were licensed/registered.
The dogshit:

We already addressed the first lie about a car being 15x more likely to kill than a firearm. "Everyone knows that a licensed firearm can't hurt anyone?" That's clearly sarcasm that demonstrates your lack of understanding in the entire point of registering firearms. The point of registering guns is to keep them out of the hands of people who are most likely to use them to FUCKING MURDER PEOPLE. I can't believe I have to explain this to you. And yes, cars are dangerous. They should require licencing. Guns are also dangerous, they should require licencing. This isn't rocket science.



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Is is it really ALL about saving lives? Seriously, is it? I don't think so. For every single gun murder, there were about 120 babies murdered in the womb. Anyone care or even think about that?
And finally the burnt baby shit:

You care about the lives of the unborn, but you don't care about the already living? You want to arm society, making the world more dangerous. You don't support universal health care. Don't fucking act like you give a shit about people. You're just a brain dead hypocrite right wing asshat who can't produce his own thoughts and can do nothing but parrot Rush limbaugh and Sean hannity.

Go away.
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Old 08-22-2018, 02:22 PM   #42
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We had active shooter training today for once. Scary and I pray I never have to use it. Scenario 1: we heard shots (cops were there firing blanks and no kids were there) and they said it was a shooter outside the main office. I was on the other side of the building so I ran outside. I missed the second scenario cause I was still dicking around outside. When I came in, one principal asked why I ran outside and I said cause I wasnít with kids and by a door. He said why didnít I come in his office and I said your door is glass and Iíd say something nice at his funeral. Scenario 3 was in the cafe and I got behind slow people and the shooter probably would have got me. I imagine this is the goal of a shooter in that location. Scenario 4 I was the shooter so I canít comment on that. I was glad we trained on this, but in all seriousness, if it hits the fan, thereís no training that will help. I do think we need some type of trained, armed officers or something.
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