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Old 01-03-2009, 11:25 PM   #1  
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My blu-ray player has a setting called Film Mode that states I should use it with discs recorded in 24p. It also states that I can turn it on or off because some hdtv's can't display 24p. I have a 37" VIZIO VW37L(10A) LCD, there is nothing in the manual about this, so my question is, can this tv display 24p?

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i looked it up and pretty certain the answer is no.. i do not know a lot about vizios so maybe someone else will know for sure
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i looked it up and pretty certain the answer is no.. i do not know a lot about vizios so maybe someone else will know for sure
Ya, that's what I thought because it's an older model.
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The VIZIO VW37L is NOT 24p compliant.
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The VIZIO VW37L is NOT 24p compliant.
Thanks for the info........where did you find that out?
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Thanks for the info........where did you find that out?
On the specs page for the TV:

http://www.vizio.com/productDetails....=2920&pid=1506

Under signal compatability
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Thanks Lee, I was looking at that but it just didn't register.
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On the specs page for the TV:

http://www.vizio.com/productDetails....=2920&pid=1506

Under signal compatability
But the specs say that it does do "3:2 or 2:2 Reverse Pull-down". Doesn't this convert the film frame rate (24) to video frame rate (30x2)? Or is it the opposite? Anyway, I would contact Vizio support to be sure.
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But the specs say that it does do "3:2 or 2:2 Reverse Pull-down". Doesn't this convert the film frame rate (24) to video frame rate (30x2)? Or is it the opposite? Anyway, I would contact Vizio support to be sure.
What exactly does 3:2 or 2:2 Reverse Pull-down mean?

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What exactly does 3:2 or 2:2 Reverse Pull-down mean?

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Film is 24 frames/sec. Video is 30 FPS. The 3:2 pulldown converts 24 to 30.

For a HDTV to have 24P support, it has to have a refresh rate (frame rate) that is EXACTLY divisible by 24;

72 Hz, 96 Hz or 120 Hz.

This Vizio is 60Hz.
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how about a plasma ? like a samsung PN50A550

and what are the benefits of watching it on 24p i thought the faster the better?
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how about a plasma ? like a samsung PN50A550
That one doesn't say so I have to assume it is a 60Hz HDTV.

http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/d...XZA&fullspec=F

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and what are the benefits of watching it on 24p i thought the faster the better?
The only PDP that I know of that does true 24P support are the Pioneer Kuro's at 72 hz. (called 3:3)

I have heard that one of the Panasonics refreshes at 48 Hz (2:2) but I have read complaints about flicker - the refresh rate is too slow.

"Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder."

IMO - you want film to look like film. The Kuro does this. The LCD's with the 120 Hz (5:5) are too fast. They make film look like video. Personally I don't care for that at all.
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i was told it was a 480hz at CC
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i was told it was a 480hz at CC
This is the only announced 480 Hz HDTV that I am aware.:

http://www.highdefforum.com/upcoming...hz-lcd-tv.html

It's BS by the way. There is a "law of diminishing returns" and 120Hz seems to be it. Anything past that does nothing to improve the image.
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Film is 24 frames/sec. Video is 30 FPS. The 3:2 pulldown converts 24 to 30.

For a HDTV to have 24P support, it has to have a refresh rate (frame rate) that is EXACTLY divisible by 24;

72 Hz, 96 Hz or 120 Hz.

This Vizio is 60Hz.
Thanks for putting it in terms I can understand!
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