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Old 11-02-2008, 09:47 PM   #1  
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Default Example of what a calibration disc can do

I took these pictures to show the difference some calibration can do. I used the DVE disc. The first picture is VIVID mode, the mode that a Sony brand TV comes on. The second is a custom mode after I used the DVE disc. The changes aren't that drastic, but it should give people an idea of what to expect if they mess around with calibrating. The video I took the shots from is obviously old, so it looks a little grainy, but I think you can get the idea.

If people are interested I'd be happy to take other pictures of other things.

Oh ya, my camera, which has face recognition, recognized the woman in the video as a real person



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Old 11-03-2008, 02:14 AM   #2  
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If someone cannot see how much better the PQ is on the second calibrated one of the factory VIVID setting, then maybe they shouldn't even bother getting a HDTV.

Thanks for posting those pics. It will help many people see how "off" most factory settings (particularly the VIVID) are. If you want to post more examples just keep using this same thread so all the reference differences will be in one place.

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From a newbies point of view, the second image color looks fantastic but the sharpness seems to be somewhat reduced.
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Dang, the difference is substantial. I think I'll be getting a calibration disc soon! Thanks for posting the pics!
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Hey PFC, can we sticky this? I think that just showing the power of self calibration (as opposed to Professional ISF) can really make a difference in the picture that you are watching as opposed to the picture you COULD be watching. By the way, well done sir, that is a fine set of pictures there and I applaud you for documenting the self calibration process.
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From a newbies point of view, the second image color looks fantastic but the sharpness seems to be somewhat reduced.
I agree, well at least I agreed when I first started watching this new calibrated mode. All I can say is in a still shot like the ones above, the first one also look sharper to me, but when watching motion the bottom picture looks much more realistic, like it should. I'm not sure if I'm explaining it well. I believe what happens is the TV adds artificial black lines around objects when the sharpness is turned up too high. This gives the viewer a false image, but separates the images really well, so we think it looks sharper.The DVE disc does a better job of explaining it than me. And within the disc you can actually adjust the sharpness up and watch lines appear that shouldn't be there.
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If you go to the following site.. http://www.tweaktv.com/tweak-my-tv/ Once there you can input your TV Make & Model and they will give you settings for YOUR tv to make your picture significantly better it's not hard just carefully follow their directions, and your on your wat to a much better and more realistic image display. Before you start making your adjustments write done you PRE adjustment settings in case your not satisified with the results. I reset my XBR and was extremely happy with the corrected image.











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If you go to the following site.. http://www.tweaktv.com/tweak-my-tv/ Once there you can input your TV Make & Model and they will give you settings for YOUR tv to make your picture significantly better it's not hard just carefully follow their directions, and your on your wat to a much better and more realistic image display. Before you start making your adjustments write done you PRE adjustment settings in case your not satisified with the results. I reset my XBR and was extremely happy with the corrected image.
I actually went to their site and used their settings prior to using the DVE disc. The settings were very similar. The DVE disc seemed to breathe a little more life into the picture. But for somebody that doesn't want to or can't get the disc, that site is great.
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Hey PFC, can we sticky this? I think that just showing the power of self calibration (as opposed to Professional ISF) can really make a difference in the picture that you are watching as opposed to the picture you COULD be watching. By the way, well done sir, that is a fine set of pictures there and I applaud you for documenting the self calibration process.
Thanks! Tonight I will take pictures of different things and post them in this thread to try to show more differences you can get in calibrating.
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If you go to the following site.. http://www.tweaktv.com/tweak-my-tv/ Once there you can input your TV Make & Model and they will give you settings for YOUR tv to make your picture significantly better it's not hard just carefully follow their directions, and your on your wat to a much better and more realistic image display. Before you start making your adjustments write done you PRE adjustment settings in case your not satisified with the results. I reset my XBR and was extremely happy with the corrected image.








On Angelina's pic...that should be how skin tones would look like...to me anyway. Nice pics Rizzo.

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Made this a sticky thread.
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One thing about calibration disks I don't understand, being a dvd it helps you with adjustments for your dvd input source (hdmi or component) but how can it help with other input sources (cable, OTA, box)? Do you have to write down the settings and then go to the other source to set them? But often dvd-movie colors can vary in tone and vibrancy with respect to tv program colors (for example, dvd movie colors tend to be a little more subdued than tv programs), so would the calibration disk settings apply to other input sources?
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That is a very good point and it would require some tweaking to try to match the DVD player source after getting it real close as you describe by using the same settings on the other inputs.

Some cable/sat channels look different than either other channels so nothing is perfect. Even if you paid a pro calibrator to come in they would be setting them with their equipment as the source, but then you would have an expert (if they are good) tweak the settings with the actual source material you would be using. Their pro eyes would likely do a better job than we could, but either way, nothing is exact in this regard because the standards are not always followed by all sources.

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Here is a link to the calibration disc in case anyone wants it.
I got mine at Fry's for $20 I think.
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Just took some more pics, this time of the nightly news. I think these are more reason than the others to calibrate.
And I know, probably not the best choice of a model, but you can see what calibrating does.



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