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Old 09-11-2008, 11:06 AM   #1
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Default Panasonic TH-42PZ85U versus Sony Bravia S-Series KDL-40S4100 40-Inch 1080p LCD HDTV

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Please help me decide between these two tvs.

I am also contemplating going cheap by buying a VIzio LCD or plasma tv in the 37-42 inch range.
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Welcome to the forum!

I would choose the plasma over the LCD myself in almost all situations, but that is just me, as I like to watch with the lights dim and plasmas have better black levels and much less picture smear with fast moving objects on the screen.

There are MANY threads here comparing plasmas vs LCDs so you should read through them to get the pros/cons on both tech limits and environments where one is better than the other.

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Hey guys

Please help me decide between these two tvs.

I am also contemplating going cheap by buying a VIzio LCD or plasma tv in the 37-42 inch range.
Welcome to HDF

It's probably best to start with this posted thread first.
Flat Panel Buyers Guide For Noobs
http://www.highdefforum.com/showthread.php?t=57224

You are comparing a plasma to LCD. Both have their pluses and minuses.

LCDs are better if you have a lot of uncontrollable light in the room, and if you plan to use the display for a lot of gaming. LCDs use less electric.

Plasmas usually have much better blacks, and tones tend to be more realistic, which is more advantagous if you will utilizing the display primarily for viewing movies and such.

Both models that you are choosing between are very good displays, from reputable companies.

The Vizio also makes a good product as well, but IMO the Sony and Panasonic are just a little bit better.

Whether you decide to go plasma or LCD, in the end, use your eyes and judge for yourself which model provides the most pleasing picture to YOU. You will be watching it, and not someone else.

Good luck with your shopping.

P.S. If there isn't an urgent need to buy a new display at this time, you may want to wait another two months. Thanksgiving through the Holidays is usually when they have the best sales on displays.
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My 3 year old plasma has been gamed on since day one. I personally don't see gaming on a plasma as being negative anymore. At least on the better sets.
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My 3 year old plasma has been gamed on since day one. I personally don't see gaming on a plasma as being negative anymore. At least on the better sets.
I agree that in fact plasma is the BETTER solution for fast moving gaming IMO. Many people cannot stand the smearing that happens with LCDs, and then you have the slower screen updates making them a little harder to do things with quick timing requirements. You then have to get use to the video lag with LCDs, because they refresh slower than plasmas.
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I agree that in fact plasma is the BETTER solution for fast moving gaming IMO. Many people cannot stand the smearing that happens with LCDs, and then you have the slower screen updates making them a little harder to do things with quick timing requirements. You then have to get use to the video lag with LCDs, because they refresh slower than plasmas.
Exactly. IMO I would say plasma has the definite edge now. The benefits far outweigh any negatives.
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Default The Plasma should win "hands down" on this comparison

You do realize that you are comparing one of Panasonic's high end 1080p TV's (the PZ series) to Sony's entry level 1080p LCDs (the V4100 series). Sony's XBR series, Z-Series, W-Series and V-Series are all higher end sets than the S-Series. (The L, M and N series are 720p sets).


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You do realize that you are comparing one of Panasonic's high end 1080p TV's (the PZ series) to Sony's entry level 1080p LCDs (the V4100 series). Sony's XBR series, Z-Series, W-Series and V-Series are all higher end sets than the S-Series. (The L, M and N series are 720p sets).
Exactly. Also, I would decide whether I wanted a plasma or LCD first, then decide on the model.
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You do realize that you are comparing one of Panasonic's high end 1080p TV's (the PZ series) to Sony's entry level 1080p LCDs (the V4100 series). Sony's XBR series, Z-Series, W-Series and V-Series are all higher end sets than the S-Series. (The L, M and N series are 720p sets).


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Actually the pz80u/pz85u ARE the entry level 1080p displays from Panasonic, so I believe this is a fair comparison IMO.

What are the price points on these two displays?
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Hello guys

Thanks for your responses. I have included the prices of the few tvs that have interested me below.I dont think I will go for the W series since it is straying a bit outside of my budget but I am curious to know what makes it soo much costlier.

Price of Panasonic 85U - 1181$ on Amazon
Price of Panasonic 80U - 1094$ on amazon

Price of Sony W Series - 1519$ on amazon
Price of Sony V Series - 1219 $ on Amazon
Price of Sony S Series - 1138$ on amazon

A few doubts

1) When you look at amazon.com for a comparison chart between Panasonic 80U and 85U, it says that 85U has PC input while 80U doesnt. I am a bit confused about that. What is PC input? I mean, my computer has S Video slot and I know that both the Panasonic models has S-Video slots.

2) sony W series has 120 Hz processing. Does that make the tv much more superior than its counterparts?

I would be buying a home-theatre set to go along with the tv. The home-theatre would be something cheap - like say, Philips Home theatre system with upconverting DVD player which you can get for 194 $ from walmart. (BTW what is upconverting DVD player)

If you guys have any suggestions for home theatre systems, it will be very very welcome. I am basically going for a set that has DVD, 5.1 speakers and is cheap. I dont think I will be putting it too loudly, so a home theatre set that is compatible with a tv and that is capable of producing crystal clear sound (so that I dont have to raise the volume) at a low volume is ideal.

Anyway, let me basically desribe what I want.
1) I want pleasurable viewing experience that is value for the buck. Basically I need to se clear images on the screen, be it for regular channels or HD channels or DVD movies.
2) I need a TV that is compatible with any home theatre system - like say the Philips home theatre I might buy.
3) I need a tv that can last a while. I mean, I am not sure how Amazon's return policy works - but I would prefer a tv I wouldnt have to return for say three years (I am not still sure how long I can ge a warranty on the tv - if you guys have info about how amazon works, do let me know)

I will be using the tv to watch channels on tv(both HD and regular), listen to music from the mp3s stored in my comp through an S-Video slot on my comp, watch streaming video through the internet (again through S-video slot - I dont think my comp has an HDMI slot, but it has a VGA slot) and maybe connect an X-box later in the future.

So basically, I need a tv for slots for connecting the computer, home theatre speakers, Directtv cable and maybe an X-box.

the room I will be watching tv will be dark for the most part, or dimly lit at best. i will close the windows since its soon going to be winter.

Longetivity, viewing experience and compatibility(with home theatre set, computer, X-box etc) are my primary concerns.

What tv would you guys recommend?
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