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Old 03-12-2007, 01:14 PM   #1  
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Hello all,

I am looking for some sound advice. I am looking to purchase a new HDTV and am trying to decide what technology is the best right now LCD, DLP or Plasma.

I am leaning towards LCD right now. 1080P is a must and I am looking in the 46-52" range. I am in love with the Samsung 4696 and the Sharp Aquos new 52" LCD.

DLP's seem solid and much less expensive but could be more expensive in the long run with bulb replacement?

Anyway, any advice is greatly appreciated. I plan to buy at Costco because I am hesitant to order online because of any possible warranty concerns.

Thank you all for your help!
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Old 03-12-2007, 01:39 PM   #2  
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Well.....

Why is 1080p a MUST? There is very limited content and unless you have a huge Blu-Ray collection its sort of an over-hyped option that everyone seems to "want" but cant really answer why. Of course, if you have really researched it and have determined you must have it then by all means get it and disregard my above comments about 1080p. We just see a lot of people here spend a LOT to get 1080p and when you ask why there are very few *good* answers. Thats because the reason a lot of them( NOT all of them, but a lot) got 1080p was becuase they were told they should or got bombarded with advertisements about it.

Lets summarize this 1080p thing:
BIG screen & sit close & lots of 1080p content = GET 1080p
Otherwise if any of those criteria aren't met, I'd consider skipping it.


OK then.... thats out of the way...

This is the Flat-panel forum so although I'm gonna take some heat from the NON-flat panel guys.... I wouldnt get a DLP no matter what. The pricing & performance of plasma and LCD have put a HUGE dent in DLPs armor. Overall PQ on them just doesnt measure up and their screen-size-per-dollar-spent advantage is almost gone. Rear-projection technologies simply dont impress me and never really did. The RP forum will disagree and thats fine.

So then... plasma or LCD? Well if you have to have 1080p then plasma will be VERY expensive. The 1080p LCDs have come down a bit but still cost top dollar.

I personally think plasma PQ wins out versus LCD on the content that I care about most which is sports and movies. Either technology is solid and both have made big advances over the last few years to improve their weaknesses. But, if I had to have one or the other.... I'll take plasma every time.

Now, I have to get my shields and sword ready for the barrage of attacks I will be receiving from the 1080p and DLP crowd.


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Old 03-12-2007, 01:42 PM   #3  
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Well the 3 technologies listed are totally different. Search this forum for the many threads on each technology. It has been covered pretty much on a daily basis for the last couple of years. DLP is rear projection. Big, boxy and poor viewing angles. LCD can be flat panel or rear projection. Stick with flat panel. Better viewing angles. Plasma is a flat panel only technology. Good Luck
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Old 03-12-2007, 03:40 PM   #4  
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Well.....

Why is 1080p a MUST? There is very limited content and unless you have a huge Blu-Ray collection its sort of an over-hyped option that everyone seems to "want" but cant really answer why. Of course, if you have really researched it and have determined you must have it then by all means get it and disregard my above comments about 1080p. We just see a lot of people here spend a LOT to get 1080p and when you ask why there are very few *good* answers. Thats because the reason a lot of them( NOT all of them, but a lot) got 1080p was becuase they were told they should or got bombarded with advertisements about it.

Lets summarize this 1080p thing:
BIG screen & sit close & lots of 1080p content = GET 1080p
Otherwise if any of those criteria aren't met, I'd consider skipping it.


OK then.... thats out of the way...

This is the Flat-panel forum so although I'm gonna take some heat from the NON-flat panel guys.... I wouldnt get a DLP no matter what. The pricing & performance of plasma and LCD have put a HUGE dent in DLPs armor. Overall PQ on them just doesnt measure up and their screen-size-per-dollar-spent advantage is almost gone. Rear-projection technologies simply dont impress me and never really did. The RP forum will disagree and thats fine.

So then... plasma or LCD? Well if you have to have 1080p then plasma will be VERY expensive. The 1080p LCDs have come down a bit but still cost top dollar.

I personally think plasma PQ wins out versus LCD on the content that I care about most which is sports and movies. Either technology is solid and both have made big advances over the last few years to improve their weaknesses. But, if I had to have one or the other.... I'll take plasma every time.

Now, I have to get my shields and sword ready for the barrage of attacks I will be receiving from the 1080p and DLP crowd.

Thanks bud I really appreciate your input. The reason 1080P is my choice is because I want to have the option/ability to have the best clarity out there and as more dvd's move to blue ray I figure why not be equippedfor the best.

Do you you think plasma's are more dangerous to move? i am expecting to move atleast twice before settling somewhere permanent...should this be taken into consideration?
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We are just talking user opinion here, but I agree for the most part with 2S. DLP or RPT as a whole is not my cup of tea, but they do produce a very good HD picture. View angles, replacment bulbs and moving parts are not for me. I have both plasma and LCD. I love them both and the PQ on both are excellent. Both have advantages over the other, but I am a bit more savy to my plasma. I think the PQ is crisper. It is also more than 12'' bigger so that may also have something to do with it. And you can always mount the plasma/lcd to the wall if you like. I also think that 1080p in a 50'' or smaller display is not very benificial, unless you are sitting very close.

Moving any display can be a bit challenging. Just be very careful while transporting. Be as gentle as possible and you will be fine. My guess is that you will do a much softer job than may shipping companies do when they send it to you or the store.
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We are just talking user opinion here, but I agree for the most part with 2S. DLP or RPT as a whole is not my cup of tea, but they do produce a very good HD picture. View angles, replacment bulbs and moving parts are not for me. I have both plasma and LCD. I love them both and the PQ on both are excellent. Both have advantages over the other, but I am a bit more savy to my plasma. I think the PQ is crisper. It is also more than 12'' bigger so that may also have something to do with it. And you can always mount the plasma/lcd to the wall if you like. I also think that 1080p in a 50'' or smaller display is not very benificial, unless you are sitting very close.

Moving any display can be a bit challenging. Just be very careful while transporting. Be as gentle as possible and you will be fine. My guess is that you will do a much softer job than may shipping companies do when they send it to you or the store.
I own both LCD and DLP and there are limits to both. LCD is a bland PQ and screen size cost . DLP is cheaper and color are more vibrant but limits your viewing angles. Also if your room is small or get a lot of light it can be a problem. Have two friends with Plasma both swear by them and i think picture is as nice as DLP and more color than LCD.
One spent hundreds on wall mounted installation and the hanging wires are hideous. The other spent hunderds on the stand for his set.

I must agreed about the 1080p must have question. Look most of my friends have gotten HD set and do not even have a HD source. The ones that do, watch broadcast TV which I believe is still 720p and less and will be for a long time to come. Also everyone is complain regarding the lack of HD channel, D-TV only has 13 included the NBC,CBS,FOX ABC.. I hear you on Blu Ray and or HD/DVD quality.But I need more reason to buy HD/DVD of all my favorite movie again(300VCR+300DVD) ,plus $3000 just to watch the occasional HD/BLU-ray DVD. My wife like to go to the movies a lot lol...
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One spent hundreds on wall mounted installation and the hanging wires are hideous. The other spent hunderds on the stand for his set.
If it looks hideous, it was installed hideously. If your gonna wall mount it, do it rite. I have mine set up very nice with my SS setup. I do have all wires going into the wall and are hidden. My uncle has hi wires hidden behind conduit that matches his wall color. It looks good, but not as good. I think I get almost as many comments on the wall mount as I do my plasma's PQ. I want to hang it above the fireplace now but just can't quite talk myself into it. And my wall bracket with tilt was only $135, installed by myself and a buddy.
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I must agreed about the 1080p must have question. Look most of my friends have gotten HD set and do not even have a HD source. The ones that do, watch broadcast TV which I believe is still 720p and less and will be for a long time to come.
ABC, Fox, ESPN/ESPN2, and the National Geographic Channel are 720p the majority of the rest, including NBC, CBS, and PBS broadcast in 1080i
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ABC, Fox, ESPN/ESPN2, and the National Geographic Channel are 720p the majority of the rest, including NBC, CBS, and PBS broadcast in 1080i

You are correct but that is my issue. What content is available in 1080p?
Really, nothing at this point. Today's high-def broadcasts are done in either 1080i or 720p, and there's little or no chance they'll jump to 1080p any time soon because of bandwidth issues.
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i am on the anti 1080p boat at this point. if you have $ to throw around then hey why not, but i think s/one with that kind of $ isnt trolling threads - they probably have purchasers and such! lol

i just speant some big $ on a 720p native res 60" plasma and have no qualms about it whatsoever. my buddy just bought a Sammy 1080p DLP and my TV's PQ is better. i did alot of research before purchasing my TV and from everything i read, and from my own eyes, it is very difficult to tell the difference between 1080p and 720p.

add the fact that there is very little 1080p content and its a waste of $ IMO. so my advice would be to get the best 720p plasma your budget will allow. i had mine installed on the wall for $225 plus bracket, it was done perfectly, with the wires running behind the wall.
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1080 or 720 really depends upon the size of the display and the viewing distance. I can see the difference between a 720/768 and 1080 on 46" panels, sitting at 6.5 feet. Of course, if you want a flat panl 1080p display you are pretty well directed to LCDs, unless you want another mortgage on your home.

Stealth, unless your set is sitting next to your friend's, it is difficult to say which set has the better picture. There are several variables that can affect picture quality, the set, home wiring, signal input. You have to have the exact same HD feed at the same time, in the same room before you can judge.
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From what I have read, 1080i content will be better on a 1080P set than on a 720P set because a 1080P set has to convert once from progressive to interlace while a 720P set has to convert twice-from interlace to progressive and then from 1080 to 720.
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Old 03-14-2007, 11:16 AM   #13  
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1080i content will look better on a progressive display with 1920 x 1080 pixels (what some call a "1080p" display) than on an equivalent lower resolution display. It doesn't really have anything to do with the interlacing. You would be seeing all of the resolution of the signal instead of a scaled-down version of it.

It doesn't matter whether there is 1080p content or not, a progressive display with 1920 x 1080 pixels will display 1080i signals as if they were 1080p. Don't confuse the input signal format with the displayed image.

Some people use the term "1080p display" to describe any progressive display with 1920 x 1080 pixels.

Other people use the term to describe a display which accepts a 1080p input signal.

It gets confusing because there are progressive display with 1920 x 1080 pixels that do not accept a 1080p input signal (only 1080i) and there are displays with less resolution than 1920 x 1080 which *do* accept a 1080p input signal and scale it down to the native resolution of the display.

Note also that I mentioned displays being "equivalent" when making a comparison. There is no point in making a judgement about "1080p" by comparing a DLP with an LCD with a Plasma with a (fill in the blank). It's not the resolution that makes these displays look different, it's the inherent properties of the display technology.

If you want to compare ketchup and mustard, put one on a hamburger, and the other on another hamburger, don't put ketchup on a hamburger and compare it with mustard on grilled chicken.
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Thank you all for your input. I think 1080 is the future and I def. want to be equipped for what will come down the road. I think I am going to go with the 52" LCD Sharp Aquos 1080P.

Any people out there have it with comments?

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Here is the latest review of the display:

http://www.tvpredictions.com/sharp52031507.htm
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