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Old 12-07-2006, 10:25 PM   #1  
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Ok so I have the Westinghouse LTV-19w6 and a basic magnavox VCR. My basic cable just comes from a splitter (which comes from the wall) into my VCR via coaxial, and from vcr to tv via coaxial. When i hit menu on my VCR to program it, I usually get just a mess like the second picture below. Obviously it is supposed to look like the top picture, which it occasionally displays, however once I press any buttons, nothing actually changes on the screen, although the buttons pushed to do things they are supposed to (meaning the problem is with the tv displaying it, not the VCR's menu).

Any ideas? Do I have a bad tv, or is it just because its a lousy VCR and a high def tv? That's lame because it is a tv tuner, it should be able to display it. Of note I've run a composite cable from the VCR to the TV and same thing happens. Thanks for any help.
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Old 12-08-2006, 12:28 AM   #2  
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Since you already made the purchase of an HDTV...why on earth are you feeding the cable signal through a VCR and then to the TV via coax? Do you subscribe to HD cable? If not, I strongly recommend you upgrade to HD cable and get their DVR box and dump the VCR and coax cable and use HDMI. It's an HDTV!
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Old 12-08-2006, 07:41 AM   #3  
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Since you already made the purchase of an HDTV...why on earth are you feeding the cable signal through a VCR and then to the TV via coax? Do you subscribe to HD cable? If not, I strongly recommend you upgrade to HD cable and get their DVR box and dump the VCR and coax cable and use HDMI. It's an HDTV!
I'd love to. The tv however was a gift, and I'm a student who really can't afford digital cable, let alone stuff like DVR. I was hoping to mainly use it to play video games and watch movies, but I can't find the HD Pack for my original xbox, so that's kind of a lost cause.

Oh and PS, it goes through my vcr first because I'm running analog audio to my surround sound for PL 2, cause the speakers in this TV sound like a tin can.

Anybody any suggestions about the VCR problem for now?
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Old 12-08-2006, 10:25 AM   #4  
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Obviously you won't get the best picture quality with that hook-up, but you are right, it should work. Regardless of whether you are feeding it a Composite Video signal via a jack input, or an RF signal that gets decoded to a Composite Video signal internal to the TV, it should display a stable picture.

It looks like the display is not syncing properly to the signal. Either the video output level of the VCR is too low or too high for the TV, or there is something wrong with the sync circuitry of the TV.

Does this problem only occur on the VCR menu and not on broadcasts or tapes playing on the VCR? If broadcasts/tapes also get messed up, try connecting the RF cable directly to the TV and see if that syncs properly.
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Old 12-08-2006, 12:17 PM   #5  
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Obviously you won't get the best picture quality with that hook-up, but you are right, it should work. Regardless of whether you are feeding it a Composite Video signal via a jack input, or an RF signal that gets decoded to a Composite Video signal internal to the TV, it should display a stable picture.

It looks like the display is not syncing properly to the signal. Either the video output level of the VCR is too low or too high for the TV, or there is something wrong with the sync circuitry of the TV.

Does this problem only occur on the VCR menu and not on broadcasts or tapes playing on the VCR? If broadcasts/tapes also get messed up, try connecting the RF cable directly to the TV and see if that syncs properly.
I don't think I've tried to play tapes through the VCR onto this tv, but I'll try that when I get home tonight. Broadcasts very rarely seem to freeze for half a second, or just get really fuzzy briefly. It doesn't happen much, and again I don't know if its my tv or the crappy cable here where I live. Perhaps I'll hook it up straight to the tv tonight and see if the broadcasts seem any better. (I tried comparing the different ways to watch cable tv when I first got it and didn't notice any difference.) I only bought this like 2 weeks ago from Best Buy... is it worth taking it back and seeing if another one acts up as well?

Thanks for the help.
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Old 12-08-2006, 12:27 PM   #6  
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Sure, but try the experiments first. If the VCR or the cable is the problem, there's no point in getting another of the same set, although a different make/model may be more tolerant.
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If the only reason you have the VCR hooked up is to use its audio, why not just run audio from the TVs L/R analog out jacks? The TVs tuner is probably better than the VCRs, and it would DEFINITELY be better than having the VCR re-modulate the image from its tuner to channel 3 or 4 for the TV!

Before I took back the TV, I'd try other video devices and see if their images were similarly garbled on the TV. I'm gonna guess it's the craptacular old VHS VCR causing the trouble.
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