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Old 05-24-2006, 02:38 PM   #1  
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Two questions, guys. I am thinking about getting a vizio 50 inch plasma. Is burn in still an issue with plasmas? Secondly, is it expensive and difficult to hang a plasma on the wall and hide the wiring?
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1. Not really. There are a bunch of posts about this question.

2. How difficult depends on how handy you are. If you don't have a problem getting in the attic and doing a wall fish, or you don't mind cutting into the drywall and routing cables, then it's not hard at all. Installing the wall mount is straightforward - attach to wall studs and install the plasma. I didn't think it was hard or expensive. I bought RG-6 quad cable, made my own component cables, installed an outlet behind my LCD, did a wall fish, installed component wall plates, and I don't think I spent much more than $100 on supplies (excluding the mount, which was around $60 if I remember correctly).

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Yeh same here.Cut a hold in the dry wall for power outlet and another for wire outlet.Think i had about 60 bucks in parts and mount.
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I do not believe the claims that burn-in is no longer an issue with Plasma TVs. If some really solid proof could be offered that would be great but I would probably still be skeptical of many claims or sources.

The only TVs that maybe I can believe are almost totally resistant to burn-in are direct-view LCDs (no idea about LCD RPTV). Even direct-view CRTs do burn-in, they just are very very hard to burn-in. However, very very hard still means it is an issue because as long as you watch a lot of 4:3 content on a widescreen TV you are essentially burning your set in every day all the time.

I don't believe that even with advances in technology that today's Plasmas are more resistant to burn-in than today's CRTs, and I have heard of users burning in sidebar images into their widescreen CRTs. Plasmas might not be as horribly susceptible as years ago, but I generally don't believe in miracle advancements. If something was once a problem it will likely always remain a problem forever, just reduced most likely.

Again, if someone has really good solid proof to the contrary that would be very interesting to see, I think.
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With a few common sense steps (http://www.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/p...tv-burnin.html burn-in isn't nearly as much of a concern with recent plasma generations. Is it still possible to burn in an image? Probably. Would I be overly concerned about it? With routine TV watching: no. If I used a plasma for a computer display (which I would never do; if you need that, use an LCD), I would be careful not to leave an image on the screen for more than half an hour at the longest.
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You can read dozens of posts from plasma owning gamers that have played steadily for many hours with no hint of burn in. There are reasons why it's an infentesible possibility. Phase shifting, advancements in gas formulations, screen sweepers. Bottom line is, you can ruin anything if you try hard enough. If you won't believe the claims from owners then????? Anybody out there with a two year old plasma or newer experienced actual burn-in, not to be confused with temporary image retention?
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kego, for some people "routine TV watching" could mean lots of 4:3 content with black sidebars which is one of the best ways to burn-in a set, possibly better than videogames.

inaz, I'm not concerned with newer than two-year old sets, I agree it is unlikely those will burn in. I would probably only begin to worry about a well-used set (meaning lots of 4:3 content, lots of videogames, but no purposeful abuse) after 5 years or so. You might think that is too long, but I'd still rather have a set that lasted for 7 to 10 years until it reached the end of its useful lifespan, than one that looked all burned in after 5 years...
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If there is such a issue with burn in on a plasma, then why do the tv mfg. have a pc input on their tv's if there is a chance for burn in?

I know you can auto hide the task bar on windows but that would be the image that would most likely be burnt into the screen from pc use.

So has anyone experienced that?
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simply because one has not experienced burn-in does not mean it does not exist- IT DOES! i have espn on the bottom right of my 5 month old display.....happened after a month or so of maybe watching about 1-2 hours of espn at the most a day.. it is not bad and you can only see it when you turn channels if you look for it.... but it does exist and that is why they warn you about it in the manual....
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simply because one has not experienced burn-in does not mean it does not exist- IT DOES! i have espn on the bottom right of my 5 month old display.....happened after a month or so of maybe watching about 1-2 hours of espn at the most a day.. it is not bad and you can only see it when you turn channels if you look for it.... but it does exist and that is why they warn you about it in the manual....
Well to state,what set do you have?When you took your TV home did you leave it on the settings out of the box or adjust anything?Unless you did something wrong you shouldnt have gotten burnin this early as in most cases this is misuse in the break in period.Some people state LCD has no burn-in which is not true because it can,and they state caution in the manuals.
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Plasma's wouldn't be selling if everyone was getting burn-in.
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Exactly..
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who said everyone was getting burn-in? i just said it does exist- settings were adjusted to prevent it and i did not mis-use it---anyway it does exist ....that's my point...
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I am thinking of the 50 inch vizio plasma. How often will the black sidebars be on? Do I have to worry about that with a dlp? Can you zoom out the sidebars?
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I am thinking of the 50 inch vizio plasma. How often will the black sidebars be on? Do I have to worry about that with a dlp? Can you zoom out the sidebars?
I have Vizio 50 inch with TW cable DVR HD box. You can go wide screen which stretches it or zoom in.

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