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Old 12-30-2005, 04:14 PM   #1  
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I finally located a Panasonic TH-42PX50U and I plan to pick it up tomorrow. Does anyone know if these TVs can be transported flat, or do they need to be upright?

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Old 12-30-2005, 04:44 PM   #2  
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I finally located a Panasonic TH-42PX50U and I plan to pick it up tomorrow. Does anyone know if these TVs can be transported flat, or do they need to be upright?

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I read in another forum where someone tranported a 42hp95
flat in a pickup for 15 miles without incident.
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Old 12-30-2005, 05:49 PM   #3  
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DO NOT transport a plasma flat......the manufacturer says not to and there is a very high %chance that the panel could break because of the flex caused by the weight of the panel/electronics whilst laying flat. The guy that transported his flat was lucky, if you transport it flat and it breaks guess what? You own a worthless broken plasma that the store nor the manufacturer will replace. Good luck and make the right decision, if you cant haul it upright then dont go cheap after spending $3k because you dont want to pay $50 to have it delivered.
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Old 12-30-2005, 06:51 PM   #4  
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Thanks for the insight. I will, without a doubt, transport this baby upright.

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I think the problem crops up sooner than broken glass - It is the seals between the pixels -- they loosen -leaking gases between pixels- screwing up the color at the very least - used to be - taking them over high mountain passes - in an RV -- or pickup -the glass would flex from the change in atmospheric pressure and same thing happened -maybe they fixed that - or maybe not - [or maybe just an urban legend] -
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When we get them there is a tilt meter on the box. We are to refuse shipment if it shows the unit has been tilted.
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Maicaw I beleive that is all an urban legend and has never been true. For eample the only way the gases will leak or move is if the screen is cracked and also breaked the sealed unit. (Note the Exon and Neon gases in a plasma are harmless).

I have heard and seen more than a few people ship in a flat position. All I can suggest is "Keep it upright !!". (Even if you do not have the original packing keep it up right but secure your unit !!)
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Maicaw I beleive that is all an urban legend and has never been true. For eample the only way the gases will leak or move is if the screen is cracked and also breaked the sealed unit. (Note the Exon and Neon gases in a plasma are harmless).!)
I guess since you sell them you would be expected to know - but here's what a high-end mfg says
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http://www.runco.com/OP_plasma_cw50xa.html The CW-50xa is state-of-the-art High Definition flat-panel plasma display monitor designed specifically for outstanding performance in high altitude environments. With an altitude rating of over 9000 feet, this new plasma monitor offers Runco picture quality in mountain locations usually off limits to plasma displays
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rare natural gases (like xenon, neon, and argon), which have been compressed inside hundred of thousands of tiny glass envelopes. Ideally, the pressure these gases are under should match the pressure of the gases (N2 and O2, mostly) outside the walls of those glass envelopes. At sea level or thereabout, these two pressures are more or less equivalent, for this is the atmospheric pressure level at which most plasma panels have been calibrated -Altitude has long been a factor affecting the performance of plasma monitors. http://www.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/p...-altitude.html
- also one of your salesmen told me over the phone 2 weeks ago -that a Sharp AQuos 45" flat panel 1920x1080 LCD would be more likely to suffer burn-in than one of your lower resolution plasma panels - that's news to me - I said you mean LCD projection - - he said no - LCD flat panel - guess if your name is plasma you guys must have info the rest of us don't know about
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Runco is a maufacturer of Plasma's that I do not carry and they are right about high Altitude plasma's. Most will make a load humming noice due to this elevation. NEC makes a High altitude plasma also.

As far as the gases nothing is going to happen as far as movement of gases unless the unit is cracked.

Yes LCD units can get burn in.
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I used to work in the warehouse at CC. We would get trucks with plasmas leaned on their side all the time and this never caused any problems. If you need to lean it to take it home feel free. Im 100% positive that it will not affect your tv at all. I cant think of the manufacturer right now but there is one that has a diagram of how to install the base and it shows the tv leaned flat on its face on a table. The whole 'dont lean it on its side' story is just as stupid as the 'plasmas only last 5 years' story.
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Yes LCD units can get burn in.
Could you explain this?

My understanding is that LCDs can get "burnt-out" transistors but not "burn-in" like CRTs and Plasmas because there is no chemical to burn (oxidation of phosphorus). LCDs can have retained charge in its transistors for a prolonged period of time but is reversible. Like any technology, the transistors can eventually break, even prematurely, hence, "burnt-out".


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Well lets just say that there is a image that is stuck on my LCD and they replaced the screen. One thing is, it is covered under warranty on an LCD.
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I used to work in the warehouse at CC. We would get trucks with plasmas leaned on their side all the time and this never caused any problems. If you need to lean it to take it home feel free. Im 100% positive that it will not affect your tv at all. I cant think of the manufacturer right now but there is one that has a diagram of how to install the base and it shows the tv leaned flat on its face on a table. The whole 'dont lean it on its side' story is just as stupid as the 'plasmas only last 5 years' story.
I think you are terribly out of line telling an individual to transport a plasma lying flat............there is a HUGE difference between carefully laying the plasma flat in home for 10 minutes to install a wall mount bracket vs. laying it flat in a vehicle and traveling with one, this is a very risky venture. You are basically advising this guy to take this chance. Let me ask, are you so 100% positive that your willing to purchase him a new plasma if this one were to crack while transporting it? I didnt think so, so please dont give advise that totally contradicts what the manufacturer recommends. This is why most chain B&M store employees know less than a lot of their customers and their bad reputation for lack of knowledge about products follows them.
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I would think if CC were concerned about receiving Plasma's
on their sides, they would require tilt meters.
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I have seen "burn in" --or more exact, image retention on 2 LCD screens i have.

First one was on a Viewsonic VG800. The upper right corner would retain parts of a window - the X, restore\expand, minimize buttons would stay for days. When i played World of Warcraft i had parts of the game interface stuck there.

On my Dell W2600 LCD TV(used a computer monitor) It frequently retains parts of different games. Darkage of Camelot icons, Everquest 2 interface parts. just about every game that is played for a long time and for days at a time - no i am not a hardcore game addict that plays for 5days in a row without moving
By that i mean i play the same game each day after work and on weekends. I shut down the computers each nite and the W2600 is used to watch TV for 90min each work morning.
there is always a faint retention of interface items --they always fade over a few days if i switch to a different game.
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