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Old 10-05-2005, 04:17 PM   #1  
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Is Saamsung high definition LCD HDTV the best brand to buy?
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Old 10-08-2005, 12:34 AM   #2  
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I would love to see the Samsung 409D side by side with the new Sony V40XBR1 but I was completely sold on the Picture quality when I saw the V-Series yesterday at Best Buy.
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Is Saamsung high definition LCD HDTV the best brand to buy?
Many people are saying the new Sony 40" XBR LCD has a much better picture than the Samsung. JVC has a new 40" LCD out that also reportedly has a very good picture. I really want to like the Samsung but i don't think they're quite in the same league as the name brands.
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Then you laugh when you realize that Samsung makes the Sony 40 incher lcd.
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JVC has a new 40" LCD out that also reportedly has a very good picture.
Not a comment on the JVC's LCD models but a review on the new JVC PD-42X795 Plasmas by Sound & Vision, Sept 2005:

"This stylish TV has decent picture quality and cool features, but fallsshort of the competition."
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Then you laugh when you realize that Samsung makes the Sony 40 incher lcd.
How much of the Sony does Samsung make? I believe I have read on this board they make the panels. Making the panels is only one part of it - the electronics behind the panel is what makes the picture quality.

Hell, there are many Mercedes parts and technology in our 300C and Magnum HEMI's but they don't perform like my Mercedes.
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Then you laugh when you realize that Samsung makes the Sony 40 incher lcd.
In line with the post from E55 KEV, can you please expand on the phrase "Samsung makes the Sony 40 incher lcd" ? I too can imagine that means one of at least 3 different possibilities
1. Samsung builds the entire set exactly like their own but slaps a "SONY" label on it.
2. Samsung builds it to Sony's specifications
3. Samsung makes a significant part, for instance the panels, and then Sony does the rest.
Thanks for the clarification and source if possible.
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Beats me, I asked this on another forum of a guy who went to a Show of some sort and asked the Sony rep that very question and he said that they are built alongside the same line the Sammy's come off of but they have different QA but may use many of the same parts...........whatever that means. I couldn't tell a picture quality difference between a 408d and a new 40" bravia at BB. They're all pretty good now.

Although, when I have looked at the 409d and the Bravia I can see alot of similar features physically, I think it's relatively confidential info right now so it's been hard to find out for sure. I'm no expert but I wondered because they look so much alike and I knew of the joint venture.

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Beats me, I asked this on another forum of a guy who went to a Show of some sort and asked the Sony rep that very question and he said that they are built alongside the same line the Sammy's come off of but they have different QA but may use many of the same parts...........whatever that means. I couldn't tell a picture quality difference between a 408d and a new 40" bravia at BB. They're all pretty good now.

Although, when I have looked at the 409d and the Bravia I can see alot of similar features physically, I think it's relatively confidential info right now so it's been hard to find out for sure. I'm no expert but I wondered because they look so much alike and I knew of the joint venture.
When I worked for a Security Systems company (later purchased by Philips), we had a production line (called Hirata, I think a Japanese term) that assembled CCTV monitors. We bought the CRT's from Korea/China/Japan and used parts from dozens of other suppliers to get the finished product. One part at the front of the line was called the "Bezel" which was essentially the front plastic casing that holds the tube. Occasionally we would make monitors for other companies in the industry who would sell them to complement their line of security procucts. When we did that, the only difference is that we would start with a bezel that had the other company's name stamped on the front instead of our name. They had a different color, but other than that there was essentially no difference.

So nothing surprises me anymore when it comes to making a buck. Here we were, building monitors for our competition. Go figure. I've now come to accept it as commonplace as I learn more and more in the business world.
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In line with the post from E55 KEV, can you please expand on the phrase "Samsung makes the Sony 40 incher lcd" ? I too can imagine that means one of at least 3 different possibilities
1. Samsung builds the entire set exactly like their own but slaps a "SONY" label on it.
2. Samsung builds it to Sony's specifications
3. Samsung makes a significant part, for instance the panels, and then Sony does the rest.
Thanks for the clarification and source if possible.
From what i understand, Samsung builds the LCD panel for Sony, then Sony uses their own superior electronics and cabinet so basically the only Samsung component is the panel itself.

I was in CC this afternoon and took a good hard look at the 26", 32", and 40" XBR LCDs and i gotta say i was very impressed with their picture. Sharp and clear. All were showing a recorded loop of a football game on ESPN-HD and the signal looked pretty darn good for a store. On the 40 incher i noticed the picture go a little soft during motion or camera pans, then when the camera stopped the picture came back into "focus" and become sharp again. The effect was slight but noticeable, but this does not happen at all on my 42" Panny plasma on ESPN-HD.

Then i went across the street to BB - and half of their flat TVs were turned off and most of the operable ones showed a poor to terrible picture. The 40" XBR never had a chance at this trainwreck of a store.
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Then you laugh when you realize that Samsung makes the Sony 40 incher lcd.
First of all, to answer the original question, it's the Sharp AQUOS series. Their TFT panel is 8th generation and manufactured by Nikon.

The 7th generation TFT panels in the Samsung and the SONY LCDs not just the 40 incher are built in Korea by a joint venture company between SONY and Samsung. I.e. you have the best of SONY brains combined with the best Sammy brains. The company is called S-LCD. The rest of the components in the LCD HDTV are manufactured by individual companies. As already mentioned, the electronic components in the SONY are superior. Their TVs have always been the most reliable and will continue to be. Although, Panasonic (like Honda with Toyota) is giving SONY a run for their money. The picture quality of the Samsung is about equal to the SONY (because of the S-LCD TFT), but the SONY will last much longer.

The SONYs top out size wize at 42" while the Samsung tops out at 46". This is because the TFTs (built by S-LCD in Korea) goes into the LCDs made by the Korean company Samsung first. The Sharp AQUOS currently tops out at 65" easily matching the Panny Plasmas but unfortunately not in price but does beat them in pixel resolution. Oh the Panny LCDs are not bad either. Overall quality balancing picture qual, value, and durability, I would rate Panasonic, SONY, Sharp top 3 LCDs.

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The Sharp AQUOS currently tops out at 65" easily matching the Panny Plasmas but unfortunately not in price but does beat them in pixel resolution.
well considering neither of them are on the market yet you could in fact say the samsung 82" LCD beats the sharp 65.... (for size that is of course, but as for PQ or economics... who knows?)

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well considering neither of them are on the market yet you could in fact say the samsung 82" LCD beats the sharp 65.... (for size that is of course, but as for PQ or economics... who knows?)
Sharp has already released it's LC-65D90U capable of 1080p and will be available in US stores November 2005. Sharp released the LC-65GE1 in Japan ages ago and has already released the new LC-57GE2 (57") which is yet to arrive in the US. Who knows when Germany will get theirs.

When is Samsung releasing their 82" LCD??? As for picture quality as mentioned the Nikon TFT is 8th Generation vs. the 7th Gen S-LCD.

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I've had both the LN-R409D and KDL-V40XBR1 in my home for ~4 weeks each, and decided to return each of them. Feed is D* HD/SD, OTA HD/SD, and DVD.

To my eyes, the Samsung has one really big advantage, it hides decompression artifacts better allowing for sharper image. I never got the D* guide or DVD on-screen menus to look crisp on the Sony. They looked great on the Samsung.

The Sony has jaw-dropping colors, much better than the Samsung. It also has more adjustment flexibility, more inputs, better case design (IMHO - the Sammy has a very high gloss bezel and I have a bright room), better speakers, and the list could go on. But, the inability to deal with (or maybe fidelity in displaying) digital decompression artifacts is a fatal flaw in my book -- can't live with it.

Good luck, and make sure that your retailer will allow return.
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I have these televisions side by side in my circuit city, usually i am a
samsung fan in lcd's but it actually seems that the sony may have
superior black levels, this may be just my imagination but thats what
i saw. more importantly, just go somewhere, look at the two of them and if you like the sony tell them to give it to you for the price
of the samsung.
I also have asked the sony reps about who makes what and samsung
apparently makes some of the boards that sony uses, he was
definitly unsure or lying though, so take that for what its worth.
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