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Old 05-05-2010, 06:49 PM   #1  
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Default Edge-Lit LED-LCD Vs. Regular LCD

Is there any other advantage of a Edge-Lit LED-LCD HDTV over a Regular LCD HDTV besides it uses less power?
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There are many more picture anomalies with an edge lit LCD then there are with a conventional CCFL LCD. So no an edge lit LED LCD display is actually worse than a standard LCD.

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There are many more picture anomalies with an edge lit LCD that there are with a conventional CCFL LCD. So no an edge lit LED LCD display is actually worse than a standard LCD.
I agree. A well implemented and designed CCFL(regular lighting) LCD can make a good image. The LED-based sets are hyped up but its mostly empty hype. Plus they are BIG money. No thanks!
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I would not recommend an Edge-Lit LCD to anyone. I have spend significant time watching the Samsung 6000 series and it is horrible. Flashlighting, off angle viewing is horrendous and black levels are just uhhh... not black whatsoever lol

You would be better of with a regular LCD or a full backlit one with local dimming.
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I would not recommend an Edge-Lit LCD to anyone. I have spend significant time watching the Samsung 6000 series and it is horrible. Flashlighting, off angle viewing is horrendous and black levels are just uhhh... not black whatsoever lol

You would be better of with a regular LCD or a full backlit one with local dimming.
I agree with this. Edgelit is purely marketing where at least the backlit with local dimming can and does improve black levels. But damn they are so much more expensive compared to the better (IMO) overall PQ of a plasma.
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water under the bridge as they are not available any more BUT my kdl-52xbr10 has the most vivid color deepest blacks I personally have ever seen. yes very expensive. the tv with a sanus powered mount retracts into a hole in the wall in my living room where my 400xbr36 direct view tv used to be in. IF you say the others mentioned around here have an even better picture I would be shocked. jaw dropper. no wires with media center box. no side angle problems as I pan the tv to face my chair and tilt it down until it directly faces me. like cheating. sorry had to post. with the sony 5300 amp and a set of boston acoustics micro 100's and a pv1000 subwoofer will play rock concert up front volume level. no distortion. doesn't hurt your ears. hog heaven for an old tv salesman long ago. where was this 40 years ago? sammy screen in the sony? joint venture plant? not 3-d and expensive in a competitive market I guess. either I paid my contractor to redo my tv wall or luck into a tv that fit the hole perfectly. same money out of my wallet either way. bob
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water under the bridge as they are not available any more BUT my kdl-52xbr10 has the most vivid color deepest blacks I personally have ever seen. yes very expensive. the tv with a sanus powered mount retracts into a hole in the wall in my living room where my 400xbr36 direct view tv used to be in. IF you say the others mentioned around here have an even better picture I would be shocked. jaw dropper. no wires with media center box. no side angle problems as I pan the tv to face my chair and tilt it down until it directly faces me. like cheating. sorry had to post. with the sony 5300 amp and a set of boston acoustics micro 100's and a pv1000 subwoofer will play rock concert up front volume level. no distortion. doesn't hurt your ears. hog heaven for an old tv salesman long ago. where was this 40 years ago? sammy screen in the sony? joint venture plant? not 3-d and expensive in a competitive market I guess. either I paid my contractor to redo my tv wall or luck into a tv that fit the hole perfectly. same money out of my wallet either way. bob
Im sure you have a great tv and speakers, but saying your speakers can reach concert levels is ridiculous. Your speakers probably have trouble touching 100db let alone 115db
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Wait so LCD is better than LED?
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Wait so LCD is better than LED?
Yes a standard CCFL lit LCD display is better and has less problems than an edge lit LED, LCD display...
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Yes a standard CCFL lit LCD display is better and has less problems than an edge lit LED, LCD display...
I agree. Now a backlit with local dimming LED actually improves black levels and the PQ is better than standard LCD with florescent backlighting, but they introduce some other issues and cost way too much IMO. For me a plasma being about half the price of a local dimming model makes much more sense.
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I agree. Now a backlit with local dimming LED actually improves black levels and the PQ is better than standard LCD with florescent backlighting, but they introduce some other issues and cost way too much IMO. For me a plasma being about half the price of a local dimming model makes much more sense.
That pretty much sums it up. Plus the plasma has a better picture, anyway.
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You cannot talk over it. Will have to get out my db meter. Small room. The same speakers as snell cls.5's X 4 plus a modified dual driven cone center channel plus the 1,000 watt pv1000 sub all Boston acoustics made in USA stuff. Add the new Sony 5300 digital amp. Interested to see but it's clairity disguises it's loudness. No distortion. Neighbors 200 feet away called the police on me years ago with a 444es Sony amp and same speakers. Single pane windows in 2x4 1988 construction house with doors and windows closed. Research micro 100's from Boston acoustics and see. I am an old rock and roll boom box speaker guy and this plays much louder and clearer. Rebuilt them once but the USA parts are not available anymore. Out of business. Cast aluminum wall mount heavy little boxes. Come on by and bring a test cd. Makes the cd changer skip and it's mounted on silicone feet. Pink Floyd pulse is unbelievable on DVD through this and I saw the show in 1993 in person. Way over 115. Trust me. The Sony amps and the high efficiency old Boston acoustics stuff was a magical combo. You will ask me to turn it down finally and ask about the neighbors as everyone does. Lots of us old guys had really loud equipement for a long time but the digital clarity is a big advantage. Before this I had klipsch and a Sony str1000 that played loud enough to vibrate out window panes in the windows that had small panes mounted on a slant with a crank handle to move them to horizontal from almost vertical. Fell out into the flower garden. Vibrated out of the end brackets. Old people like me don't play it that loud very often but the pink floyd is worth it. Do not mean to brag BUT this was setup to be a stereo rock and roll system not home theatre. The big screen is just the current video in the room.



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Im sure you have a great tv and speakers, but saying your speakers can reach concert levels is ridiculous. Your speakers probably have trouble touching 100db let alone 115db
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You cannot talk over it. Will have to get out my db meter. Small room. The same speakers as snell cls.5's X 4 plus a modified dual driven cone center channel plus the 1,000 watt pv1000 sub all Boston acoustics made in USA stuff. Add the new Sony 5300 digital amp. Interested to see but it's clairity disguises it's loudness. No distortion. Neighbors 200 feet away called the police on me years ago with a 444es Sony amp and same speakers. Single pane windows in 2x4 1988 construction house with doors and windows closed. Research micro 100's from Boston acoustics and see. I am an old rock and roll boom box speaker guy and this plays much louder and clearer. Rebuilt them once but the USA parts are not available anymore. Out of business. Cast aluminum wall mount heavy little boxes. Come on by and bring a test cd. Makes the cd changer skip and it's mounted on silicone feet. Pink Floyd pulse is unbelievable on DVD through this and I saw the show in 1993 in person. Way over 115. Trust me. The Sony amps and the high efficiency old Boston acoustics stuff was a magical combo. You will ask me to turn it down finally and ask about the neighbors as everyone does. Lots of us old guys had really loud equipement for a long time but the digital clarity is a big advantage. Before this I had klipsch and a Sony str1000 that played loud enough to vibrate out window panes in the windows that had small panes mounted on a slant with a crank handle to move them to horizontal from almost vertical. Fell out into the flower garden. Vibrated out of the end brackets. Old people like me don't play it that loud very often but the pink floyd is worth it. Do not mean to brag BUT this was setup to be a stereo rock and roll system not home theatre. The big screen is just the current video in the room.
Please send me a link to the speakers specifications. I cannot find them online. just wondering what the sensitivity and power handling is. Is the micro a satellite speaker? I might be looking at the wrong speakers, but they look like satellites.

For a 90db speaker output would work like this:

1 watt = 90db
2 watts = 93db
4 watts = 96db
8 watts = 99db
16 watts = 102db
32 watts = 105db
64 watts = 108db
128 watts = 111db
256 watts = 114db
512 watts = 117db
1024 watts = 120db
2048 watts = 123db

Reaching 115-125db cleanly is not an easy thing to do. Usually you need high sensitivity speakers with high power handling. And if you are playing a speaker at 115db, you need some headroom for any sudden spikes.
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You cannot talk over it. Will have to get out my db meter. Small room. The same speakers as snell cls.5's X 4 plus a modified dual driven cone center channel plus the 1,000 watt pv1000 sub all Boston acoustics made in USA stuff. Add the new Sony 5300 digital amp. Interested to see but it's clairity disguises it's loudness. No distortion. Neighbors 200 feet away called the police on me years ago with a 444es Sony amp and same speakers. Single pane windows in 2x4 1988 construction house with doors and windows closed. Research micro 100's from Boston acoustics and see. I am an old rock and roll boom box speaker guy and this plays much louder and clearer. Rebuilt them once but the USA parts are not available anymore. Out of business. Cast aluminum wall mount heavy little boxes. Come on by and bring a test cd. Makes the cd changer skip and it's mounted on silicone feet. Pink Floyd pulse is unbelievable on DVD through this and I saw the show in 1993 in person. Way over 115. Trust me. The Sony amps and the high efficiency old Boston acoustics stuff was a magical combo. You will ask me to turn it down finally and ask about the neighbors as everyone does. Lots of us old guys had really loud equipement for a long time but the digital clarity is a big advantage. Before this I had klipsch and a Sony str1000 that played loud enough to vibrate out window panes in the windows that had small panes mounted on a slant with a crank handle to move them to horizontal from almost vertical. Fell out into the flower garden. Vibrated out of the end brackets. Old people like me don't play it that loud very often but the pink floyd is worth it. Do not mean to brag BUT this was setup to be a stereo rock and roll system not home theatre. The big screen is just the current video in the room.
Sony amps and receivers are poor to say the least. The digital amps just don't have the headroom or dynamics when compared with other brands. They distort easily and in many tests prove to be sorely lacking. I'm glad you like yours but there are and always have been much better receivers and amps (with higher power, dynamic headroom and much lower distortion) available at prices less than Sony.

Sony should stick to TV's where they do make a good product...
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Home Theater Magazine just did a review of a Sony Bravia with edge-lit LED technology. The set performed well in most areas except that it has uneven backlighting/black levels. Thats NO good, IMO. Actually, its a deal-killer.

I say stay CCFL - Its much cheaper and does the job.
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