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Old 12-04-2013, 11:34 AM   #661  
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Since Panasonic is no longer making them, would it be wise to buy one now rather than waiting a few months until my home remodel is done? I see Best Buy has a few Panasonics and some refurbished Samsungs. I also have a Video Only close by I can check. Looking for 55 inch.
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Old 12-04-2013, 02:51 PM   #662  
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This is my view. No scientific numbers or anything else. Plasma has great blacks and dirty whites as well as CRT but with better color saturation. LCD is great for whites not so for blacks and is also better in well lit room. LED/LCD is great for whites with better blacks then LCD and better color saturation as well as energy usage is better. I also like the fact of LED/LCD is better for my HTPC since scaling is one to one. I had this setting on my plasma but it was 1024x768 so I had to adjust video and didn't look as good as my LED/LCD. So as you can see not one is better than the other since each has its weakness and strength and that is what makes us like one better than the other. Mine is LED/LCD since I have a HTPC and watch lots of Blu-Ray. I know I could have spent 3 times the money and got 1080P plasma but I have never been able to justify spending lots of money on a TV. My way of looking at is if I spend 1200 for a new TV and get 5 years it cost me 20 a month and if I spent 400 and get 5 years it cost me 6.50 a month. Before you think I don't watch TV I leave mine on 14+ hours a day 7 days a week. I don't even like Cable TV cause that cost is 80 a month and antenna OTA is free. I bought my antenna 7 years ago before the digital transition and I just put preamp on it all on sale. Antenna was 50.00 for old fashion style and preamp was 25 so that is getting cheaper every day. With what I have invested it is less than 1.00 a week and going down.

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This is my view. No scientific numbers or anything else. Plasma has great blacks and dirty whites as well as CRT but with better color saturation. LCD is great for whites not so for blacks and is also better in well lit room. LED/LCD is great for whites with better blacks then LCD and better color saturation as well as energy usage is better. I also like the fact of LED/LCD is better for my HTPC since scaling is one to one. I had this setting on my plasma but it was 1024x768 so I had to adjust video and didn't look as good as my LED/LCD. So as you can see not one is better than the other since each has its weakness and strength and that is what makes us like one better than the other. Mine is LED/LCD since I have a HTPC and watch lots of Blu-Ray. I know I could have spent 3 times the money and got 1080P plasma but I have never been able to justify spending lots of money on a TV. My way of looking at is if I spend 1200 for a new TV and get 5 years it cost me 20 a month and if I spent 400 and get 5 years it cost me 6.50 a month. Before you think I don't watch TV I leave mine on 14+ hours a day 7 days a week. I don't even like Cable TV cause that cost is 80 a month and antenna OTA is free. I bought my antenna 7 years ago before the digital transition and I just put preamp on it all on sale. Antenna was 50.00 for old fashion style and preamp was 25 so that is getting cheaper every day. With what I have invested it is less than 1.00 a week and going down.
I think you have some misinformation:
If properly calibrated and an accurate greyscale, plasma whites will not be dirty or dingy. As mentioned 1080p plasma scales perfectly 1:1 and at the same resolution and screen size plasma tends to be much cheaper than LCD or LED/LCD unless perhaps you are comparing top of the line plasma to bottom barrel lcd.
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Old 12-04-2013, 05:38 PM   #664  
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I think you have some misinformation:
If properly calibrated and an accurate greyscale, plasma whites will not be dirty or dingy. As mentioned 1080p plasma scales perfectly 1:1 and at the same resolution and screen size plasma tends to be much cheaper than LCD or LED/LCD unless perhaps you are comparing top of the line plasma to bottom barrel lcd.
Evidently you did not read my whole post. I don't spend money foolishly on TVs since I watch so much. Being perfect is not what I am after. What I am after is best value. I have a LCD in bedroom that has best picture for LCD and this is with many people coming over and no one noticed if colors were perfect and I paid less than 300.00 and has lasted over 7 years. I rented Panasonic Plasma cause every one stated was best before I purchased one and after calibrating the whites were still dirtier than LCD and liked it so much I returned it and bought Insignia Plasma for 340.00 vs Panasonic for 459.00 and Insignia was Samsung rebranded and whites were dirty unless I brightened it then blacks weren't as strong and it was a 720p. It last 22 months and BestBuy bought it back and I purchased the Toshiba LED 1080p with 4 year warranty for additional 10.00 and has best picture of all of them before calibration and with calibration looked dull. I have bright room TV sets in and run in energy mode and had cable guy disconnect cable after contract was up and he couldn't quit starring at Toshiba stating it has the best picture he has seen and he thought it was a Samsung or Sony. Oh and your theory about plasma is cheaper a Plasma 1080p is 650 and I won't go over 400 and still got 1080P with 120 hz. Anything bigger than 42" overpowers my living room and it is 14x14 and plasma 1080P doesn't come that small that I found. Oh before you throw stats out about size for living space I rented before buying so I could see what size and type I wanted before purchasing and that is how I determined what TV was right for me.
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Old 12-16-2013, 07:51 AM   #666  
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...at the same resolution and screen size plasma tends to be much cheaper than LCD or LED/LCD unless perhaps you are comparing top of the line plasma to bottom barrel lcd.
Not wanting to get into a debate but what you say, may be true if you want a 3D TV. If you don't, plasma is more expensive (at least in the 55" size I shopped for) simply because there aren't many 2D plasmas, at least in the stores where I live. So getting one at a discount is difficult. I ended up with a 55" Vizio for under $900 (two years ago) and you couldn't touch that price for a 55" plasma. After calibration I'm very happy with the Vizio, especially since I can't easily darken the room.
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Evidently you did not read my whole post. I don't spend money foolishly on TVs since I watch so much. Being perfect is not what I am after. What I am after is best value. I have a LCD in bedroom that has best picture for LCD and this is with many people coming over and no one noticed if colors were perfect and I paid less than 300.00 and has lasted over 7 years. I rented Panasonic Plasma cause every one stated was best before I purchased one and after calibrating the whites were still dirtier than LCD and liked it so much I returned it and bought Insignia Plasma for 340.00 vs Panasonic for 459.00 and Insignia was Samsung rebranded and whites were dirty unless I brightened it then blacks weren't as strong and it was a 720p. It last 22 months and BestBuy bought it back and I purchased the Toshiba LED 1080p with 4 year warranty for additional 10.00 and has best picture of all of them before calibration and with calibration looked dull. I have bright room TV sets in and run in energy mode and had cable guy disconnect cable after contract was up and he couldn't quit starring at Toshiba stating it has the best picture he has seen and he thought it was a Samsung or Sony. Oh and your theory about plasma is cheaper a Plasma 1080p is 650 and I won't go over 400 and still got 1080P with 120 hz. Anything bigger than 42" overpowers my living room and it is 14x14 and plasma 1080P doesn't come that small that I found. Oh before you throw stats out about size for living space I rented before buying so I could see what size and type I wanted before purchasing and that is how I determined what TV was right for me.
I read time and time again in pro review as well as consumer ratings that plasmas have been shown to give the best pq for the least amount of money per square inch (meaning value) and high end plasmas deliver best PQ - period. Insignia plasmas are bottom of the barrel and have been discontinued for at least 4 years now so whatever you had is certainly outdated by today's standards. Once again a properly set greyscale on a plasma (or any tv ) simply will not have dingy whites. You are correct though that minimum plasma size is 42" BTW a 14x14 room has plenty of space for a 50 or larger tv depending on seating distance - I am happy you are pleased with your set/tv but your statement
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is probably the most accurate thing in your post

FWIW I have 1 plasma, 2 lcd , 1 projector and 1 led/lcd displays in my house and the plasma, while costing a bit more than the led and lcd which are insignia BTW and vizio, is more than twice as big and per square inch cost less than even those budget tv's and by far has the best PQ of any display in my house.

Oh and btw 720 vs 1080 has nothing whatsoever to do with color, blacks or how white the whites are.

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Not wanting to get into a debate but what you say, may be true if you want a 3D TV. If you don't, plasma is more expensive (at least in the 55" size I shopped for) simply because there aren't many 2D plasmas, at least in the stores where I live. So getting one at a discount is difficult. I ended up with a 55" Vizio for under $900 (two years ago) and you couldn't touch that price for a 55" plasma. After calibration I'm very happy with the Vizio, especially since I can't easily darken the room.
55 is a tough size to find in plasma - I know a 50 high end panasonic in my local BB is $699 the same set in 55 however was $1399 - weird just an odd mishap as panny is leaving the business and scarcity is driving up prices recently with fewer and fewer 55+ in to be found.

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55 is a tough size to find in plasma - I know a 50 high end panasonic in my local BB is $699 the same set in 55 however was $1399 - weird just an odd mishap as panny is leaving the business and acarcity is driving up prices recently with fewer and fewer 55+ in to be found.
That is indeed weird. I do believe in the saying that HDTVs, like t-shirts, shrink over time and I could fit a 55" in the space but not (fortunately for my checking account) a 60".
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I know exactly whay you mean I keep thinking man a 60 or 65 sure would be nice instead of this measly 50" - luckily I have a projector and 100+" screen so I turn to that to keep myself in check.
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Plasma did rule, but now it is OLED, clear the path !
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Plasma screens are much more rare and expensive than most LCD screens at this point, but if you can spend over $2,000 on an HDTV and don't mind being limited to just Samsung and LG, you can pick up one that offers some of the best picture quality available. But still i like plasma
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Plasma screens are much more rare and expensive than most LCD screens at this point, but if you can spend over $2,000 on an HDTV and don't mind being limited to just Samsung and LG, you can pick up one that offers some of the best picture quality available. But still i like plasma
I just got a samsung 60 inch plasma, going from a 52 inch LG LCD which had a great picture.
The difference is night and day between the two with the plasma heads above the LG. My LG is not top of the line as far as current specs but it was top of the line and cost me $1800 3 years ago.

Sadly I had to return the Samsung but only because I experience Judder more than most people and the samsung had serious judder issues (source judder) such as when the camera pans, the whole background is herky jerky and gave me a headache. I am one of the few who like the soap opera effect, not because i like the look but more because it smooths the scenes for me and makes it watchable.

Plasma handles motion blur fine but does nothing for certain types of judder, in fact its worse than my LG LCD. The LG has TruMotion settings which I like. I will be getting the LG Plasma that has the TruMotion settings to replace the samsung.

I had to go back to my LG LCD while I wait for the LG Plasma to arrive and after having the Samsung for little under a week, I can not see how I can ever go back to LCD again. I looked at the current model LED LCD's and in my opinion, they still do not hold a candle to Plasma. My brother bought one of Sony's top LED 65 inch tv's few weeks ago and even that is not as good as the samsung plasma.
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