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Old 09-16-2011, 05:29 PM   #571  
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I have been researching for a new HDTV for a while now and it's starting to drive me nuts. The reason is because I get discouraged from the issues that the plasma and LEDs (LCD) have. I have narrowed it down to the Panasonic 42ST30 plasma, Panasonic 37" DT30 and the Sony 46HX729 LED. Now, my main factor for purchasing the TV is PS3 gaming. I am hardcore gamer. I do watch blu-ray movies, etc.
But the issues regarding FBr, burn-in on plasmas and backlight and uniformity issues on LED and factoring what does best with gaming input lag discourages me from deciding on a TV. Help me out! The Panasonic 37" DT30 has great reviews on Amazon despite there not being many reviews around.
I would actually remark and go ahead and say opt for the 46" Panasonic ST30 on Amazon before the 17 of september, if size us not a major issue for you. Due to Amazon having a special sale (well pannys having a special sale but Amazon is doing it through them (?) And selling it) on that particular size-its the lowest avaliable-for not only a FREE 3RD Generation 3D glasses medium but as a pair which details for $200 when bought together with the tv (youll see the discount at checkout) but also because price wide the 42" has gone up to $799 from what it originally was whereas the price for the 46" has gone down from $899 to $858.51.

And yes overall this is a better buy, because your not only saving money for the free 3rd generation of a pair of 3D glasses but also you get 4" more of viewing space, and along with that you actually save more. Technically. You'd be out $1000 if you bought the 42" now $799 with a pair of 3D glasses $200 with 4" less of viewing space.. compared to $858.51 for both 46" of tv and 3D glasses.

And yes I wasn't interested in 3D much, but 3D has the 2011 panel as compared to the 2010 panel on the non 3D meaning better 2D resolution and viewing.. plus its a 3D tv and to get the MOST out of it you might as well succumb Nd get dem glasses since your ready 2/3 there with the 3D tv, you know?

This is the tv I just recently bought, and I'm getting it today! My delivery time has been kept off track but I'm ok as long as i get it today.

Just my two cents man, helping a brotha out. Glad someone else is buying a tv from amazon! Oh and theres 24 month financing for this tv anyways, the 42" nigg only be 12 month financing, using the Amazon Store Card.
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Old 09-27-2011, 08:56 AM   #572  
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I would definitely go with plasma tv.
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Old 10-06-2011, 09:15 PM   #573  
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I go abck and forth on this. But at the store the plasmas did not impress me. I was thinking of still buyign a Panasonic GT30 from Amazon and then could return it if I need to. But the problem is that with the whole 100 hour breakin suggestion on here I would ahve to have the thing on for days when time is of the essence. i have a sony hx820 I am testing to decide whether or not to get a 929. I can't keep it much longer or it will be unreturnable. So if I order a plasma and sit it there for 4 days of test patterns then it will mean i immediately need to send the Sony back before even knowing how well the plasma performs.

In the store it sure looked worse than the leds to me personally, but maybe I was influenced by the sheer ehat giving me a headache.

Also I have seen people say that the Panasonics have more artifacts and blotchy skins and whatnot more than most tvs. I can't stand artifacts so am wondering how true it is. It was hard tot ell much in the store because I couldn't even tell whether or not the plasma I was looking at was properly set... The same people on the plasma looked different than on the led next to it so who knows which was the correct skin tone!
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Old 10-07-2011, 01:59 AM   #574  
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I certianly havent spent much time looking at plasmas, but just to state what ive read from some who don't like plasmas... they say you cans ee the pixels on the screen to the point of it looking verry fake. then plasma fanboys say lcd imagery is fake (I guess because it's processed). Several say all panasonics look grainy. Also that no plasma can give accurate whites. SO yes the blacks are accurate, but not whites. So then the Sony has accurate blacks and whites, but then the haloing, viewing angle sisues, and bad 3d.
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Old 10-12-2011, 12:23 PM   #575  
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I certianly havent spent much time looking at plasmas, but just to state what ive read from some who don't like plasmas... they say you cans ee the pixels on the screen to the point of it looking verry fake. then plasma fanboys say lcd imagery is fake (I guess because it's processed). Several say all panasonics look grainy. Also that no plasma can give accurate whites. SO yes the blacks are accurate, but not whites. So then the Sony has accurate blacks and whites, but then the haloing, viewing angle sisues, and bad 3d.
Sounds as if you should have jumped on the KURO bandwagon while it was available......
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Old 10-15-2011, 11:07 AM   #576  
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LED is better than both plasma and LCD. But if I were to choose from plasma and lcd. I will choose LCD.
LED's are LCD's.
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Old 10-15-2011, 11:11 AM   #577  
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I have never seen an LCD that was as fast as a plasma. Every LCD is too slow to keep up with most motion. Try recording "dancing with the stars" and watch the horrible double images you get when the dancers are turning and moving. The cheapest plasma will have far superior colors. LED backlit LCD's are so bright they "stab" me in my eyes, and are difficult to watch. Whites look florescent and totally unnatural. Blacks look grey. Text has "jaggies"and most reflect as much light as plasma glass. They cost more! Why would anyone by an LCD over 37 inches is a mystery to me. You have all been duped by the likes of Sony.
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Old 10-15-2011, 07:09 PM   #578  
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I have never seen an LCD that was as fast as a plasma. Every LCD is too slow to keep up with most motion. Try recording "dancing with the stars" and watch the horrible double images you get when the dancers are turning and moving. The cheapest plasma will have far superior colors. LED backlit LCD's are so bright they "stab" me in my eyes, and are difficult to watch. Whites look florescent and totally unnatural. Blacks look grey. Text has "jaggies"and most reflect as much light as plasma glass. They cost more! Why would anyone by an LCD over 37 inches is a mystery to me. You have all been duped by the likes of Sony.
Man you were doped by plasmania.you still didn't get it? why the Plasmas are so Cheap? this means people are not buying them i wonder!,when i go to Best Buy i look at Plasmas they look so bad compared to Led/lcd it must be cause they are in a bright ambiance,or it's just me! and led or lcd look good to me maybe must be just me! remember TV should mostly be watched on a lighted ambiance not on the dark,otherwise you're eyes will suffer.good luck
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Old 10-16-2011, 03:20 AM   #579  
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I have never seen an LCD that was as fast as a plasma. Every LCD is too slow to keep up with most motion. Try recording "dancing with the stars" and watch the horrible double images you get when the dancers are turning and moving. The cheapest plasma will have far superior colors. LED backlit LCD's are so bright they "stab" me in my eyes, and are difficult to watch. Whites look florescent and totally unnatural. Blacks look grey. Text has "jaggies"and most reflect as much light as plasma glass. They cost more! Why would anyone by an LCD over 37 inches is a mystery to me. You have all been duped by the likes of Sony.
Then you've never looked at a good LCD. Mine, a JVC, is five years old and have never seen any of the issues you claim. No double images, great color, back lights and brightness are adjustable. Perfect whites. About the only claim you make that I can support is the black level is not as pure as some plasma sets I've viewed.
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Old 11-05-2011, 02:03 PM   #580  
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Samsung 59" Plasma shows energy rating of $40.00 per year, that is 5 hrs a day, every day for one year. The difference is now down to pennies per day.



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Old 11-05-2011, 02:06 PM   #581  
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I look at flat panels all day, 5 days a week. JVC makes a decent set, I must say, but the flaws are with the technology, not as much the manufacturer. Some companies like Toshiba and Sharp are particularly horrible.



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Then you've never looked at a good LCD. Mine, a JVC, is five years old and have never seen any of the issues you claim. No double images, great color, back lights and brightness are adjustable. Perfect whites. About the only claim you make that I can support is the black level is not as pure as some plasma sets I've viewed.
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Old 11-05-2011, 02:17 PM   #582  
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Plasmas are cheaper because they are less expensive to make! LCD's sell more because Sony and Samsung have done a far superior job of marketing than Panasonic and other plasma makers have. LCD's have response times which are infinitely slower than the instantaneous illumination of Plasma sub particles. All LCD's have motion blur issues and always have. There is simply no LCD capabale of displaying the Black levels of a mediocre plasma! Hence colors on a plasma will always be more robust! Plasmas have always had better off axis viewing and still do. All LCD's wash out when viewed from the side.

You may have heard of the ingenious idea of marketing "pet rocks". If those can be sold, surely LCD's can be effectively marketed.

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Man you were doped by plasmania.you still didn't get it? why the Plasmas are so Cheap? this means people are not buying them i wonder!,when i go to Best Buy i look at Plasmas they look so bad compared to Led/lcd it must be cause they are in a bright ambiance,or it's just me! and led or lcd look good to me maybe must be just me! remember TV should mostly be watched on a lighted ambiance not on the dark,otherwise you're eyes will suffer.good luck

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Old 11-22-2011, 12:04 AM   #583  
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I think at present the gap between Plasmas and LCDs is closing in. Initially LCDs were lagging behind Plasmas in many departments but latest surge in technology have made LCDs superior to what they were few years back. However, it is still difficult to judge who rules at the moment. There is a following for Plasma panels. No matter what they will always go for Plasmas every time they have to buy a new TV and it is the similar case with LCDs as well.
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Old 11-27-2011, 02:52 AM   #584  
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I'm far from an "expert" on this subject, but so far, it looks to me that Plasma is going the way CRT's are going. To this day, ppl still seem to believe the "quality" of CRT picture is unbeatable...given the right tube of course. But other than the "professional niche market", plasmas will just start to disappear because the reality is that you will never be able to fit as many plasma screens into a truck than an LED...not to mention OLED's that will creep in the next few years. And it will cost much less gasoline to ship an LED as they get bigger and bigger. And of course all of them practically come across vast oceans. So manufacturers will push LED TV's onto consumers and prefer to make those screens.
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I have never seen an LCD that was as fast as a plasma. Every LCD is too slow to keep up with most motion. Try recording "dancing with the stars" and watch the horrible double images you get when the dancers are turning and moving. The cheapest plasma will have far superior colors. LED backlit LCD's are so bright they "stab" me in my eyes, and are difficult to watch. Whites look florescent and totally unnatural. Blacks look grey. Text has "jaggies"and most reflect as much light as plasma glass. They cost more! Why would anyone by an LCD over 37 inches is a mystery to me. You have all been duped by the likes of Sony.
I think what you say has a point, but it really depends on the person. Most ppl aren't that picky about minute TV motion artifacts and the "unnatural white" phenomenon is based on your perception. In reality, white should be white, but if you've grown up all your life around incandescent lighting, your eyes will tell you that a slightly yellowish white is more comfortable and that everything else looks "fake" or even "blue". Also, some ppl don't like white that is too "pure" because it reminds them of the office. "Home" is where incandescent lights (and soft white CFL's today) rule so when you want a comfortable environment, some ppl despise "daylight bulbs" so to speak.

But slowly, I see more lighting migrating toward the daylight CFL colors and so even as old habits die hard, you should probably realize that a lot of it is in personal perception. Also everyone's eyes are different. Like some ppl can't really tell when the aspect ratio is wrong and ppl are "squashed". But others can tell right away and it bothers them. Maybe if we are all so perceptive of minute details and picky about colors, we'd all be artists and film producers?
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