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Old 02-09-2011, 06:55 AM   #526  
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Made some corrections to your comments (in red). Plasma also has wider viewing angles.
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I read that link and found a lot of exaggerated or wrong info there. A couple that stand out are the power thing with plasmas. Yes they use more power overall than LCDs and LED backlit LCDs, but the difference on a properly adjusted plasma is about $20-30.00 per year for the average usage. So leave the donuts to the cops.

Next you describe "LED TVs" like they are different tech than LCDs. LED is only the backlight or edge lighting used and is STILL an LCD tech with all the limitations that has. Sure a LED backlit LCD with local dimming can have great black levels, but there are hardly any models out that ARE backlit. Most are edgelit.

A third thing is you do not mention that most of the better LCD models now have a glossy screen like plasma do so the number of LCDs with a matte screen is usually limiting you to the lower end models.
PERFECT man thanks a lot, all good feedback! I'll be fixing that today. Did you upload a pic of your tv? It would be cool to see peoples TV's from this forum.
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Old 02-09-2011, 07:25 AM   #527  
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Hi Dan,
Sorry for the slow response, but it appears this site was hacked and a lot of members were erroneously banned.
I copied your blog and added some of my comments that you can choose to, or not to, incorporate.
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Advantages - All around best hometheatre viewing quality because of excellent black levels, wide viewing angle and the best motion resolution available. Best pricing points available for screens above 46 inches in size, which gives you the most bang for your buck.

Disadvantages - Reflective screen that can cause glare when around ambient lighting. (True for lower end models, but higher end models have excellent AR coatings which greatly minimize glare.) Potential for burn-in if you are careless.(IR and IB has been greatly reduced with settings such as Pixel Orbiters, but care should be given to avoid static images for prolonged periods of time.) Eats energy like cops eat donuts! When it comes to power consumption, this is the area where plasma is slacking the most, manufacturers just can’t seem to make a unit that is as energy efficient as an LCD or LED.(Energy efficiency for plasmas have improved, but are still higher than LCD or LED LCDs. This disparity can be further reduced through proper calibration.)

Bottom line – It’s tough to give a plasma too much crap when it comes to their flaws especially considering their excellent price point in larger sizes. (You can omit the following if you include the above comments in red "Most of the original issues with plasma such as burn in and lifespan have been addressed adequately for a long time. Almost all plasmas have built in burn in prevention features as well as a few tools to help correct burn in if it does occur.") As far as lifespan, your average plasma could be left on 8 hours a day and last for 20+ years! ("However if you’re a tree huger (not that there is anything wrong with that) you’ll hate the energy ratings on these TV’s and if you plan to put this TV in an area with a lot of ambient lighting, may I advise against that? The glass screen will have way too much glare!" - Probably should be omitted)

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Advantages – Recent improvements to LCD’s such as 120 and 240 hz as well as LED edge lighting has helped LCD catch up to plasma in the race for best picture quality. A matte finish (Not all LCDs and LED LCDs have matte screens these days) on the screen allows the TV to be placed in a room with a lot of ambient lighting and still be watchable. Available in the largest size range. Consumes less energy than a plasma.

Disadvantages – Viewing angle does is not as wide as plasma. Image quality is lower on LCD than plasma and sometimes the motion technology created to help with motion blur can cause judder (a choppy and jerky look). ("Flashlighting, blooming, poor screen uniformity" should also be included as a disadvantage) Price point in larger sizes can become outrageous when looking at a “price per inch” scale. Black level and color depth are weaker than a plasma. (Higher end LCDs can have better black level than lower end plasmas)

Bottom line – If you need a TV (to double as a computer monitor) for the bathroom or closet, LCD is the way to go because of the several options of sizes. Starting at around 15 inches it’s perfect for smaller areas and if you are planning on putting a 50 inch in your closest, can I borrow some money? Another consideration is room lighting, if you have ambient lighting you can’t avoid or possibly wear glasses that do not allow you to watch TV with all of the lights off (due to glaring of the TV when looking though the lenses of your glasses) then LCD may be the way to go for you too. If you happen to be a tree hugger (which there is nothing wrong with) you may want to consider LCD if you cannot afford the more energy efficient LED’s yet as LCD’s are still much more efficient than plasmas.

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Advantages – Improved technologies over LCD such as local dimming and the use of LED’s instead of cathode florescent lamps have helped make LED a valid combatant in the HDTV war. These TV’s use the least energy out of all of the TV types and the are the slimmest available as well. About as close as you can get to plasma’s picture quality without buying a plasma.

Disadvantages - PRICE, PRICE, PRICE!!! (Blooming)The most expensive technology. Lacking the size options of it’s little brother, the LCD. Still lacking the viewing area of a plasma. Struggles with motion just like a LCD, there have been no significant improvements in an LED in this category sadly.(The soap opera effect can be defeated on most LCDs and LEDs, however, they experience more lag than plasmas, and could be troublesome to diehard gamers.)

Bottom line – I cannot imagine LED not replacing the LCD , they are essentially the same television with a few different “upgrades”. The only thing stopping it right now that I can see is price and sizing options. the only reason I would recommend spending your money on a TV that is unquestionably more than either of the other two technologies is if you want an energy efficient TV, need a slim design for some reason or just want a slightly improved TV over an LCD without the disadvantages of a plasma.

That’s the basics but to compare the specific comparison points of each TV which are contrast ration, viewing angle, color, motion, power consumption, TV lifespan, and price, you’ll have to read on!

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Old 02-09-2011, 09:04 AM   #528  
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Hi Dan,
Sorry for the slow response, but it appears this site was hacked and a lot of members were erroneously banned.
I copied your blog and added some of my comments that you can choose to, or not to, incorporate.
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That sucks John, I'm glad you guys got it squared away.

Thanks for all the suggestions. I sincerely appreciate them. I could use some guest posts from you guys, my posts are geared towards more casual TV shoppers but a "techie" section would be cool too.

I think my next post will be about 3DTV's I guess I will head over to the High Definition Viewing Mediums, HDTVs any more suggestions?
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Old 02-09-2011, 09:08 AM   #529  
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Here's a point that should be taken into consideration..... Care and attention must be given when "Wall Mounting" any LCD & LED panels, to be sure it is tilt-able mounted so it can be properly angled for Maximum viewing. If it is mounted Higher up than a normal Stand/A/V furniture you will begin to see Off-Axis viewing disadvantages. LCD / LED suffer off-axis anomalies that are not only confined to right to left off-axis but, up / lower off axis image loss'. One of the reason's BestBuy(Magnolia) or 6th Ave Elec. have their showrooms setup so that panels can be displayed at their best advantage, not like bulk stores (Costco/SAMS etc) who, simply stack'em on bare floors / walls/ steel rack shelfing, without much regard to show off panels at their "viewing best". When you are looking at them they are usually 6-8' off the ground (out of the way of "prying hands"). They just don't look good that way.
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Great point Rizz.
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Here's a point that should be taken into consideration..... Care and attention must be given when "Wall Mounting" any LCD & LED panels, to be sure it is tilt-able mounted
Brilliant point. I wonder if I could write 500 words or more on just that thoguht... hmm???
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Old 02-13-2011, 02:33 PM   #532  
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I don't want to know why this is an active topic. LCD/LED have sharper picture and poor motion. Plasma have a more than adequate picture quality and much less problematic motion. Plasma wins.... and btw, my father has had a Hitachi plasma since 2005. No problems.
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Actually plasma have the most superb picture quality, the deepest blacks and the most accurate colors.

LCD's usually have a sharper, more poppy image, more vivid almost, but their black levels usually aren't as amazing (unless it's a locally dimmed LED-LCD, something like the XBR8?)
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Old 02-13-2011, 04:17 PM   #534  
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I got to admit I like both kinds. Ideally, it would be best to have both tv's for different situations.
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Old 02-18-2011, 12:17 PM   #535  
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Alot of what makes one TV better than the other are where they will be used.
Also what they will be used for is important.
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I was under the impression that LEDs are LCDs with a different backlight. Plus, I like plasmas better, just cannot stand blooming or flashlighting with LCD/LED.
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LCD are def. more convenient.
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Old 03-05-2011, 03:35 PM   #538  
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Easy choice - Plasma!
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I was under the impression that LEDs are LCDs with a different backlight. Plus, I like plasmas better, just cannot stand blooming or flashlighting with LCD/LED.
a lot of those anomalies are corrected when it's been properly calibrated.
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LCD are def. more convenient.
Take your convenience whatever that is (like sit on couch like potato and watch). I'll take Plasma's PQ with its inconvenience burden.
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