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Old 11-07-2009, 03:01 PM   #31  
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LG 55LH90. Dark inky blacks, and brilliant whites. Gorgeous in the daytime, and even better in the dark! Off axis viewing is still a problem after about 30% off axis, but not a situation in my seating arrangement.

Plenty of picture setting menus, including 2 expert ISF modes for 2 and 10 point IRE color adjustments.

My old set was a JVC DILA 720P. I think I just got a new set of eyes!

Definitely worth a look.
It looks like a good LCD, but reproduces relatively light black levels.
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Old 11-08-2009, 08:42 AM   #32  
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Plasma does now and always will beat LCD because of the different technology used for each. Until something better comes along at a reasonable price, plasma is King...
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Old 11-08-2009, 05:39 PM   #33  
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Plasma does now and always will beat LCD because of the different technology used for each. Until something better comes along at a reasonable price, plasma is King...
Maybe the people that buy 120Hz-240Hz LCDs now will realise later that what they have been watching is unrealistic and give plasma a second thought. Can you imagine how good plasmas will look in 3-5 years, holy crap! LCDs and LEDs will always be playing catch-up with plasma! I believe plasma has advanced further in the same amount of time LCDs have advanced, but LCDs progress is a little slower do to the pixel response time which has reached a dead end as far as current LCD technology is concerned!
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Old 11-09-2009, 09:34 PM   #34  
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PLASMA of course, no contest in my opinion for black levels and overall picture quality.
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Old 11-10-2009, 04:00 PM   #35  
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I prefer the look of my plasma tv, sooooooooooo much over my LCD. I recently purchased a nice 32" LCD. The picture is nice, but not near as crisp as the plasma. Yeah lcd's are bright, but:
1. The plasma's color is more natural.
2. The plasma's does a better job of smoothing the picture of SD signals.
The only problem with plasma for me is size. You cant buy less than a 42"! However I am going to stuff that 42" wherever it has to go, the next time I decide to spend near 500.00 on a tv.
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Old 11-10-2009, 04:18 PM   #36  
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I prefer the look of my plasma tv, sooooooooooo much over my LCD. I recently purchased a nice 32" LCD. The picture is nice, but not near as crisp as the plasma. Yeah lcd's are bright, but:
1. The plasma's color is more natural.
2. The plasma's does a better job of smoothing the picture of SD signals.
The only problem with plasma for me is size. You cant buy less than a 42"! However I am going to stuff that 42" wherever it has to go, the next time I decide to spend near 500.00 on a tv.
In number of sales, LCD. For us fussy types, certainly plasma.
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Old 11-11-2009, 02:10 PM   #37  
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No contest... for best picture Plasma by a landslide...deeper color. Some Plasmas now have 100,000 hours of panel life.
Although standard DVD is better on my 768p Sony for some reason. I use the HD DVD A2 in 720p, it really does upconvert!

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No contest... for best picture Plasma by a landslide...deeper color. Some Plasmas now have 100,000 hours of panel life.
Although standard DVD is better on my 768p Sony for some reason. I use the HD DVD A2 in 720p, it really does upconvert!
You should set your HD A2 to output 1080i instead of 720p. It is in the manual to do this and I can tell you it is better with my HD DVD players set to 1080i even with a 720p display. Trust me.
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You should set your HD A2 to output 1080i instead of 720p. It is in the manual to do this and I can tell you it is better with my HD DVD players set to 1080i even with a 720p display. Trust me.
Does it explain how this is possible?
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I'll try it...but the 1080i Sat signals look like S^&T compared to the 720p setting on that set...So I went with the 720p for DVD too...but I'll try it.
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Does it explain how this is possible?
With the HD DVD players (as well as the BD players) they say to send the output resolution at the same resolution that the material on the HD disc is encoded at. The reason is that most HDTVs do an excellent job scaling 1080 sources on a 720p (class) display, since 1080 is used by more stations than 720p.

One of the technical reasons is that most 720p (class) displays are actually 768p displays which means if you downscale a 1080 source down to 720p in the player, such 768p display must then add info that was removed to get it back to 768p. They do this with guessing what those missing pixels are. So sending a 1080 source this way means adding pixels that no longer exist by guessing.

Now if you send a 1080p source as 1080 to a 768p display, it only scales down and removes only the pixels to get to 768p and doesn't need to add back pixels to display at the only resolution it can do which is it's native resolution.

As far as cable/sat boxes. They should be set to pass the original resolution to the display (sometimes called native or pass-through) at the resolution it was sent for the same reasons. But also because most displays (even the cheaper ones) tend to do much better scaling than these cable/sat boxes do. Ditto for deinterlacing (changing from interlaced (i) to progressive (p)). There is very little competition for cable/sat boxes and you are stuck with what your cable/sat company goes with so they do not send much for the scaling & deinterlacing functions so sending everything at one 720p or 1080i resolution is not a good thing when you can change it. Motorola boxes generally do not allow a pass-thorugh or native output, but some of the sat/cable companies use Scientific Atantic which DOES allow this, and it is the preferred way to set up such boxes for the above reasons.

Does this help explain why?
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With the HD DVD players (as well as the BD players) they say to send the output resolution at the same resolution that the material on the HD disc is encoded at. The reason is that most HDTVs do an excellent job scaling 1080 sources on a 720p (class) display, since 1080 is used by more stations than 720p.

One of the technical reasons is that most 720p (class) displays are actually 768p displays which means if you downscale a 1080 source down to 720p in the player, such 768p display must then add info that was removed to get it back to 768p. They do this with guessing what those missing pixels are. So sending a 1080 source this way means adding pixels that no longer exist by guessing.

Now if you send a 1080p source as 1080 to a 768p display, it only scales down and removes only the pixels to get to 768p and doesn't need to add back pixels to display at the only resolution it can do which is it's native resolution.

As far as cable/sat boxes. They should be set to pass the original resolution to the display (sometimes called native or pass-through) at the resolution it was sent for the same reasons. But also because most displays (even the cheaper ones) tend to do much better scaling than these cable/sat boxes do. Ditto for deinterlacing (changing from interlaced (i) to progressive (p)). There is very little competition for cable/sat boxes and you are stuck with what your cable/sat company goes with so they do not send much for the scaling & deinterlacing functions so sending everything at one 720p or 1080i resolution is not a good thing when you can change it. Motorola boxes generally do not allow a pass-thorugh or native output, but some of the sat/cable companies use Scientific Atantic which DOES allow this, and it is the preferred way to set up such boxes for the above reasons.

Does this help explain why?
Yeah I get it, thanks PFC5.
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Old 11-13-2009, 05:59 AM   #44  
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I tried it... I see what you're saying... Yea more detail gets drawn out.... however, the picture is harder...and I think a lot of HD owners look for that one thing... the 720p setting still had a smoother picture... 720p had darker flesh tones.
Overall, I'm going with 1080i for the DVD, but no doubt 720p for Directv on the 768 Sony. 1080i looks horrible on that set, but not on the Plasma.
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Glad to help!

Flesh tones should not change with the different resolutions between 720p & 1080i, but that might have more to do with the settings overall for that input.
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