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Old 10-04-2009, 06:54 PM   #1
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Hello all!

I'm a first time flat screen buyer looking for some advice from you knowledgeable folks The hubby and I have been researching what to buy for the last 2 days and are a little bit overwhelmed by the variety available and happened to stumble upon this website. We do know that we want an LCD rather than a Plasma because of burn-in concerns and want a size between 46 and 50in. We'd rather buy from a local store than order online (limited to stores like Walmart, Target, BestBuy due to location and limited store selection). We found a Samsung L46A650 that has rave reviews on amazon but unfortunately none of the stores around us have it in stock to pick up. With the information below, I am hoping to get some other recommendations on what to look for.

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1. How far away will you be from the display when watching it? (Be as exact as possible. A 5' range difference IS a major difference - Please limit the range to 2')
Whatever is recommended for the size of TV I can do.

2. What TV will it be replacing (i.e. 27" tube TV, etc)
Old Sony 58” rear projection TV.

3. What will you be watching on it (i.e. 1/3 movies, 1/3 TV shows, 1/6 Sports, 1/6 gaming console , etc)
Lots of TV (baseball, TV shows, movies), Gaming less than normal TV. Currently have a Wii only but will get a PS3 or xbox360 in the future.

4. Will a computer be connected to use the display as a monitor? If so, what percent of the time?
No

5. Will you be getting a Blu-ray player to watch movies and will you be getting any HD service from cable/sat, or will you just be watching SD programming, and upscaling SD DVD player?
Will be getting a blue ray player in the future. Yes on HD service from cable.

6. Are you looking for the best in class display, the best bargain display, or best bang for the buck in the middle display?
Best bargain display AND bang for the buck 46”-50” =P

7. What is the room lighting situation? (i.e. can you control the lighting? Can you use light blocking blinds, etc to control it?)
Moving into an old school turned into apartment complex. Windows are at least 12foot high and there are 6 of them in the living room. We are on the 4th floor so no tree/shade coverage at all and 1 wall of windows is on east while others are on west, so LOTS of light will be coming in. There is a corner where there are no windows and where we most likely will set up the TV. Planning on getting drapes or blinds to control all that light coming in.

8. What is your budget range?
Up to $1500 if it’s awesome and worth it but trying for around $1200 (46”-50”)

**Note: We don’t need any fancy extras like internet, sd card slot, 10hdmi slots or even PIP feature (as we don’t use that at all). We just want the best quality picture and size we can get within our budget that will last us a while. Built-in speakers don’t need to have the best in sound as we will be hooking it up to 5.1 surround stereo system.


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Old 10-04-2009, 07:27 PM   #2
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From your criteria you would want a 58" Panasonic plasma. It will give you the quality of picture you are used to and then some.
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Limited to 46"-50" only as we bought a stand/mount that only fits those sizes.
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Then a 50" Panasonic plasma would fit the bill...
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Old 10-04-2009, 09:27 PM   #5
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If you could make an exception on buying locally and are willing to shell out a bit more, my first reccomendation would be a Pioneer KRP-500M. At $1700-2000, they are a steal. The Kuro series plasmas are untouchable in pq, black levels, color accuracy and very limited issues with image retention (temporary burn in). These are montiors only. No stand, tuner or speakers included, but perfect for someone that uses a home theater setup. Pioneer plasmas are discontinued but you can still find them around and often with 4 year warranties for a great price. PM for reccommended places to buy one (if interested). For plasma ...or ANY HD panel for that matter, the Kuro is king.

Panasonic makes an awesome plasma as well. They are a close second to Pioneer but don't do as well in brighter enviroments as the Kuros. You said that you could control the lighting issue, so you should be fine with a panasonic plasma... both are amazing sets. Don't waste your money on an LCD. I only reccommend a plasma because you won't be using it as computer screen. Image retention is not a big issue and it's temporary. Burn in is uncommon on the newer model Panasonics. I wouldn't worry myself with that.

More people blow money an these LCDs just to replace them with plasmas a year later or even sooner once they see a plasma set up properly in the right enviroment.

Well there you have it. My suggestion for what it's worth... #1 Pioneer KRP-500M #2 Panasonic plasma (preferably a V10 series but a G10 or S1 series is pretty good too).
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I own an LCD and love it, but plasma has changed quite abit in the last few years! Mainly Panasonic, burn-in is not much an issue anymore if you take it out of factory torch mode. Panasonic's has anti-burn-in technologies in there G10 and popular V10 plasmas, but if you still want an LCD have a look at the Samsung B750 Series! The Samsung L46A650 is an old model as is probably long gone by now.
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@Techlord: Thanks for your recommendation. I was leery of Plasmas because of what I heard about burn-ins but after reading a lot of the reviews for the Panasonic G10 50" on cnet/amazon/google a lot of those fears have been put to rest. The pricing on it is right in our price range too which is super awesome. Now to wait for hubby to get home from work and take a trip to BestBuy...I'm sure there won't be much convincing needed
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@Techlord: Thanks for your recommendation. I was leery of Plasmas because of what I heard about burn-ins but after reading a lot of the reviews for the Panasonic G10 50" on cnet/amazon/google a lot of those fears have been put to rest. The pricing on it is right in our price range too which is super awesome. Now to wait for hubby to get home from work and take a trip to BestBuy...I'm sure there won't be much convincing needed
In the store, under the high intensity lights, LCD's will look better but once you get it home a plasma will look far superior. Best Buy is not the best environment to compare TV's due to their unreal lighting and they do have incentives to push LCD's on you.
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Oedipial I agree with gamebred, Pioneer's Kuro KRP-500M is the world's best HD display. They are available with speakers and a pedestal stand for under $2300 and if you don't need the speakers you can get one for under $1800 delivered.

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In the store, under the high intensity lights, LCD's will look better but once you get it home a plasma will look far superior. Best Buy is not the best environment to compare TV's due to their unreal lighting and they do have incentives to push LCD's on you.
They always look better at home, I doubt anyone's living room is as brightly light as Best Buy's. Gosh I wish I had gotten a V10!
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Open your door a bit to Plasma. I too have been considering an upgrade and especially with LED, LCD’s and Plasma’s are closer than ever before. Plasma burn in and life issues are not so much anymore. Yes, burn in can still occur, but it is much better. And I read that the life of a Plasma now is tremendously long; equating to 8 years if left on 24/7. Wonder how many on here still have their 8 year old TV?

You just cant beat the picture of a Plasma; their depth and clarity is unmatched as long as your lighting conditions match. Also, the glare issue can be a killer in any daylight; or light condition… Keep in mind showrooms will set the TV at a slight angle pointing towards the floor as not to show these issues…

But’ LCD’s are not far behind and unless you see them side by side, can you really tell? Especially now with LED’ Since the LED’s are now providing the light, they are shut down in black scenes as so you no longer see the gray tones. This is closing in on Plasma’s.

I do have an LCD TV for the bedroom. I have lighting issues in both front room and bedroom with sunlight in the afternoon. I can watch the TV no problem with the shades open at any time of day, whereas my DLP I cannot; having to close the shutters to see it. The tube that this TV replaced and my old entertainment center where I had glass over the DLP TV really made it difficult to watch either in bright rooms due to the reflection. This is because you would not only see lights in the reflection, but also couches, walls/whatever was illuminated by the sunlight.

So, I can look if you like as to find the articles I have read; but if you just search for LCD vs. Plasma and follow the reputable sites/authors who discuss High Definition, you will find the issues are not so much nowadays. Maybe the only two worth discussing are brightness and reflection.

But, with your budget; I would not be afraid to go to the regular LCD’s. you can get a Samsung in your range.

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Open your door a bit to Plasma. I too have been considering an upgrade and especially with LED, LCD’s and Plasma’s are closer than ever before. Plasma burn in and life issues are not so much anymore. Yes, burn in can still occur, but it is much better. And I read that the life of a Plasma now is tremendously long; equating to 8 years if left on 24/7. Wonder how many on here still have their 8 year old TV?
That is more like 20+ years rather than 8.
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Sorry for the late reply!

I just want to thank everyone for their help and input.

I've talked about it with the hubby and we've come to unanimous decision to get the Panasonic 50" G10. Our local Sears won't have it in stock till early November, but we are willing to wait with the great price Sears has over BestBuy.

I'm sure I'll be back to post an update and most likely ask more questions


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Oedipial I agree with gamebred, Pioneer's Kuro KRP-500M is the world's best HD display. They are available with speakers and a pedestal stand for under $2300 and if you don't need the speakers you can get one for under $1800 delivered.

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Hardly a premium anymore to own the best.

I hope the same level of performance will be available in the future after all the still available Pioneers leave the scene for good.
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