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Old 09-23-2016, 01:06 PM   #1  
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Default Local channels are pixelated only at night

I have dish and the current equipment I have is the hopper w/sling and a joey 1.0. The problem I am having is that my local channels become pixelated every night from around 8:00 pm to 7:00 am the next morning and then during the day the local channels are clear and perfect. Dish has replaced the hopper (twice), joey, cable from dish to hopper, lnb (3 times), and the reflector but still have the same problem. When some of those changes took place the local channels would work just fine at night for a couple of nights and then eventually go pixelated. There are no obstructions blocking the dish, and no bad weather. Just clear open sky on the south side of the house. I have had this setup since 2009. Seems like if it was a cable or some other piece of equipment that it would do it all the time and not just at night and not just the local channels.

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Old 09-24-2016, 11:32 AM   #2  
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Are you receiving the locals from Dish Network or through an external dish OTA receiver connected to one of the USB ports on the back of the Hopper then connected to an outdoor antenna??

If from an outdoor antenna connected to the Hopper system, then the system is working as far as Dish is concerned.

Your antenna needs to go higher, may be damaged or miss aligned or the coax is too old and needs replacing.

The OTA tuner may look like this.

http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.asp?p=es194858

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Old 09-25-2016, 08:08 AM   #3  
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I get them from dish.
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OK, so that leaves out that possibility.

The funny thing is that if the locals pixelate for you then everyone in your area should have the same problem, as the locals are all coming down from the satellite the same way.

Try this.
On your channel guide if you go to "ALL CHANNELS" and scroll down to your locals, you should see the locals listed as SD and HD channels, try the SD channels and see if they pixelate the same as the HD ones, if not then it may be a translation problem due to some software glitch at your end.

Also look up in the 5000 to 9000 channel range, (depending on your location) the locals should also be listed (SD and HD) there, try them.

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Old 10-02-2016, 02:33 PM   #5  
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Is this the time of the year for solar fade?

The sun is directly behind the satellite in the sky for a short period of time each day, but it should not happen twice a day, unless you have a split arc of 61.5, 110, 119 and maybe 129.

And it should effect every channel that's coming from the one satellite the sun is behind.

Here's a sun fade predictor, see if it coincides with your outages. http://www.satcomresources.com/Sun-Outage-Predictor
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Old 10-03-2016, 12:44 PM   #6  
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One other possibility is that your on the edge of the local station spot beam for your area, if you don't mind can you PM me (just click on my name) your approximate location and what TV channels you are supposed to get, that way I can check it's location in the spot beam for your locals.

Or you can check it yourself, here is the link for the spot beams on Echostar 10 (if that's your locals satellite) http://www.satbeams.com/footprints?norad=33207

Just find your area in the pink area at the top of the page then click on it, this will give you the coverage area for that beam, zoom into your location and click on it, this will give you an estimated dish size needed for that location for error free signals.

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Default Well at it again

Seems like every year at this time of the month it happens.

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https://www.rcn.com/hub/customer-center/sun-outages/
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My outages occur usually during prime time hours and just to local HD channels.
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I was thinking the same thing but OP is experiencing his problems in the evening hours ... ?
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Yeah, sorry. I overlooked the times. If it's still occurring at the same hours.

Does it last a month, season, winter, stop in spring and still ... only locals?

If it's only locals, perhaps something with the Dish satellite's "spot beams"?

Any neighbors with Dish in your area have the same experiences?
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Old 10-04-2019, 07:03 PM   #12  
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Sun fade for a satellite only occurs in the spring or fall and only for a week or so.

It all depends on your location, and what satellite your looking at for the locals.

If it only happens at night, and is occurring all the time, then the satellite signal is at a low enough angle to that location, and is bouncing off something (ground, large body of water, metal roof, stuff like that there) and due to the right conditions at dusk or night, causes a fade due to an inversion of the second signal.

This may or may not be fixable, one way is to go with a larger dish, I live almost right under 129W, this satellite is the primary sat for most of the HD channels for my area, I should have great signals but I don't, I had to go with a 1 meter dish just for 129W, the same might be possible for this problem.

You can go to lyngsat.com ant look up where and what satellite and transponder is being used for the locals in your area, if it is 129W then you may need a bigger dish.

129W was originally going to be used for Canadian TV stations, dish has leased it exclusively for their use, thus some of the transponders have a funny pattern that is not quite right for the US.
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