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Old 02-19-2008, 12:43 PM   #31  
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You dont understand, the health insurance companies are making excessive profits by controlling the industry, the doctors make less and the patient gets less care.

Please understand, I am a capitalist, a business owner and employer...I am all for making a profit, but what is happening in our health care system transcends that beyond what could be reasonable...

it is not as if they are selling tv's, nobody has to have a tv...
You are right, i don't have to have a TV, but i like it and can afford it. Same thing goes with health ins. i don't have to, but i do. nobody is forcing me to get an HMO.
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Old 02-19-2008, 02:05 PM   #32  
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LOL !!! What next here ? A national health care debate !!! Way off topic ! what say !!! Lets talk some Tv stuff ... LOL
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Old 02-19-2008, 02:12 PM   #33  
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Helath insurance companies aren't rich because of their own greed. at.
I am in the business, I tell you this isnt true, and you wont believe me...cant help you...
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Old 02-19-2008, 02:36 PM   #34  
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Prove it.
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Old 02-19-2008, 05:51 PM   #35  
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Prove it.
http://www.weissratings.com/News/Ins...20040922lh.htm

http://www.vlogolution.com/vlog/moMONEY/20060502.html

1.6 billion for one person, you are right, what was I thinking, that isnt too much...
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Old 02-19-2008, 06:58 PM   #36  
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Maybe we "sheeple" just get sick and tired of listening to people whine about situations they get themselves into. You agree to a contract to pay for service realizing that if you break that contract you are going to have to pay for doing so. So be a man, nut up and accept your responsibility. You had the choice not to get television service through directv. We don't think that big corporations do no wrong, we just are not so caught up in it that we feel the need to ruin our life complaining about it. Instead we move on, use it as a learning experience and teach our children not to be babies.
ok so you sign a contract with a contractor to have some home remodeling done. now this guy comes in and does a horriable job. i'm not talking a poor job i'm talking a way bellow poor job. now should you have to pay this guy for a poor job done. not only that but he is consistantly coming to the job late, the project is taking much longer then it should, and then he over charges you for supplies and his services.

no matter if you have a contract of not there is a level of standards that contractor has to live up too. there is no difference with directv. your thinking is simply piss poor and i would not be surprised if you worked for one of these type of companies.
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Old 02-19-2008, 07:03 PM   #37  
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Teacher: Okay class, define irony.
what are you 16 or am i giving you to much credit? i said my posts are for those who can't afford to pay and are in dier need or fed up with the poor service directv is giving.
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Old 02-19-2008, 07:26 PM   #38  
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that is what they want you to think...look at the profits of the ceo of Blue Cross, it is in the billion dollar nieghborhood, one person...

hmo's were developed during Nixon by his buddies (look it up) for profit reasons only...they are screwing you, take my word on it.
yup that was proven.

the day prior to nixon figuring out if he was going to sign or not he had a taped conversation with his buddy from a medical company. the next day nixon signed the bill even though during the tape nixons buddy clearly states this is all about making money.

it's definetly no coincidnece that our national health has only deteriorated every year since a year after nixon signed that bill. don't take my word on it look it up yourself. hell check where our own health care system ranks according to our own government funded research. that's why it's a huge issue with this next election.

it's kinda like what Bush is doing with his buddies in the oil and construction field now. think about it the oil companies have posted higher and higher profits with every passing year bush is in office and all the construction companies picked for rebuilding Iraq have ties to either Bush or Chaney. that's not debatable, it's straight facts.


I just find it funny that the people with experience in this area are the ones not flaming me while the "sheeple" as someone put it seem to be having a flame fest.

don't hurt me none because my post was obviously not intended for people like you guys and no matter what you say about me my post will still be here to help someone out who is getting screwed.
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Old 02-19-2008, 07:35 PM   #39  
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http://www.weissratings.com/News/Ins...20040922lh.htm

http://www.vlogolution.com/vlog/moMONEY/20060502.html

1.6 billion for one person, you are right, what was I thinking, that isnt too much...
yup you PWNED him hard. so much for him being the know it all he seems to think he is.

Gryphone75 you're sure not bringing anything of substance to the conversation. seems like every turn you get pwned more and more. at this point you might as well bow out and save some face.

it's obvious this conversation isn't for you and you're views. it's to bad people like you are not open to researching their facts so they may come to an opinion worth having. i'm not saying that because i disagree with you but only because you don't seem to bring any argument worth the fight but still persue the conversation like you do.

sorry if that offended you but that's my opinion you what you have posted so far.
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Old 02-19-2008, 08:41 PM   #40  
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Ironic thing is that he too is in a binding contract with this company. Does that make him a sheeple as well?
Yes and no, do I not keep getting ppl/sheepl to get a desire for change within DTV, more small pkgs, HD only chs, ala carte, better UI of menus, emails to get rid of 'stretch-a-vision', etc.

Funny, the DTV ads promised a 100+ HD channels, do we have that?

It's you sheepl (DodgerKing) that do not demand more from the corp you are obligated to (assuming). I promised DTV subscription, but I want and am trying to demand more and better from them! It takes #s to get change from corps, since I can't retract $$, thus I try to inspire you little ones!
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Old 02-19-2008, 08:57 PM   #41  
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All businesses are set up and run for profit. That is why we work, for profit. It is what makes this country great, capitalism. Would you rather live in a socialist society?
Socialized? It already is socialized you clueless!

You completely misunderstand the role of the 'blue crosses' in this country!

Blue cross is supposedly a non-profit organization, they can NOT allowed to make a profit, if they do they are supposed to decrease their rates.

Instead, they build huge expensive buildings, give huge salaries to ppl who are not necessarily great biz leaders, pay most workers poor salaries while many times not giving good coverage for their 'contracted' payers! They also place a huge burden on the Drs who must accept the payment they offer rather than, to use you repugnicans party followers term, free-market prices!!

As well as, most med care (corps, st. and fed govs) in the US is subsidized by taxpayers in one manner or another, as much as 40-60%, ONLY those who pay for their single own med insurance even come close to paying the true price but still it is paying to a pool of users to offset the total bill to them even!

So you fools that do not understand these complicated issues should not say much and live your subsidized lives with health hopefully!

Go watch a movie!
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Old 02-19-2008, 09:33 PM   #42  
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Yes and no, do I not keep getting ppl/sheepl to get a desire for change within DTV, more small pkgs, HD only chs, ala carte, better UI of menus, emails to get rid of 'stretch-a-vision', etc.

Funny, the DTV ads promised a 100+ HD channels, do we have that?

It's you sheepl (DodgerKing) that do not demand more from the corp you are obligated to (assuming). I promised DTV subscription, but I want and am trying to demand more and better from them! It takes #s to get change from corps, since I can't retract $$, thus I try to inspire you little ones!
You know what they say about assuming and ignorance???

So you are willing to sign a contract with a company for a luxury that does not give you exactly what you want? If it comes to signing a contract with a company after an agreement has been reached between me and the company vs. signing a contract with a company that cannot satisfy my needs, I choose the former. If that makes me a sheeple, I will be glad to say, I prefer to be a sheeple than a fool.

Let's see. What I have been saying all along?

I have always argued that choice is good and we should do everything to promote choice, including choice of providers and choice of packages.

I have frequently made post summarizing how I was able, through the power of negotiation and suggestion, get what I want from my provider. It is called negotiated compromise. I ask for something, they offer something in return, and we both come to an agreement, including free equipment, free programming, and free upgrades. In return, they usually want another year commitment. I can agree or not agree.

I have always made points against several things Direct does, including charging extra for a protection plan. I can choose to pay for this service or not. I can choose to go with another provider that does not require their costumers to pay for a protection plan. I can call up or write to direct and inform them what I think of the plan (I did just that when negotiating something else).

This is the beauty of a free market. It creates choices for consumers, especially for a luxury item, like satellite TV.

I have always argued that whining about something on a website with no connection to the source is not going to do much but get people angry at the poster, thus creating the opposite effect of what the poster wants to accomplish.

The difference is, I only sign contracts when I can agree to the terms. Call me a sheeple for that. I will be glad to carry that name. In fact, I will update my signature to proudly carry this label.
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BTW, the stretch-o-vision thing has nothing to do with Direct. This is a network issue. Unfortunately, most people prefer stretch-o-vision (probably because they do not know the difference between stretched SD and 16:9 HD). Because of this, the networks are providing what the majority of the costumers want. If you want to change this then don't watch or support these particular networks, or contact them directly and tell them what you prefer and why.

And, it was us LA residences, myself included, that continually requested Direct broadcast KCAL 9 in HD. We did not complain, we constantly requested this service and played one provider against another, and this is why we have it now. In fact, Direct now carries 7 LA locals in HD and 2 LA RSN's in HD.

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Old 02-20-2008, 11:34 AM   #44  
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ok so you sign a contract with a contractor to have some home remodeling done. now this guy comes in and does a horriable job. i'm not talking a poor job i'm talking a way bellow poor job. now should you have to pay this guy for a poor job done. not only that but he is consistantly coming to the job late, the project is taking much longer then it should, and then he over charges you for supplies and his services.

no matter if you have a contract of not there is a level of standards that contractor has to live up too. there is no difference with directv. your thinking is simply piss poor and i would not be surprised if you worked for one of these type of companies.
So you obviously have posted many comments and I will attempt to respond to them to the best of my ability. Here we go.

#1 You hired a contractor without viewing his/her work? You got a contract but no dollar amount that the job would cost? You still let them come into your house whenever you were not satisifed with their work?

#2 32. Thanks for asking.

#3 Couldn't care less about politics or Nixon.

#4 Please review information regarding United Healthcare's being investigated concerning issuing of Stock options backdated to dates when their stock was lowest and not reporting correctly. Also review the definition of a stock option. 1.6 billion was not given to him, He was given options which at the end of 2005 were valued at 1.6 billion. If you understand options then you would understand that he was not given this amount.

#5 The screen name is Gryphon 75 not gryphone75.

#6 Black is my favorite color

#7 The nice thing about us sheeple is that we have you dogs to protect us when the coyotes come near. And we can just keep on minding our business and enjoying our lives. Thanks!
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Old 01-01-2009, 03:02 AM   #45  
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I will Never use directv EVER again. i will never tell someone to use directv neither they took out nearly 300 dollars out of my mothers checking account which they did not have any business doing they did not have direct withdrawl or anything on her account they took out 300 dollars without her permission or with her even knowing just they wanted there receiver box back and we will only get 55 dollars of that back from them as a refund for the box we have not had service with them in a few months and we have had them for over 8 years they went in there files and took my mothers checking account number/check card/check number and took this money out of her account they store all this on file so they can do this they told us today that it is company policy now and blah blah they wanted to send a fed ex guy out here to get the one receiver box but we would like to have them come out here and take it all back themselfs without the fed ex guy they have a office that does everything not even 15 miles from our house and they refuse it and they have hung up on us all day they are very rude about everything they have to many fricken non-americans working for them we cant even get nothing done about anything or even talk to someone we could fricken understand so i recommend not using directv unless you want to get screwed over BIG time.
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