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Old 10-26-2007, 03:22 PM   #16  
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This is 4 minutes i'll never get back again...lol
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Old 10-26-2007, 03:27 PM   #17  
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I wish people would read the whole thing and not zero in on one word or phrase. Obviously people who lead the pack as early adopters of anything are smart and inquisitive. The issue I have is with the predatory practices of a business that has different plans for different zip codes or that test how stupid they think the customer is. If other forum members got a different and better deal than me, why am I bad person for pointing it out? If supposedly smart people can be duped out of their money by a faceless monolithic bird in the sky, there is something unfair about that. The old package was fine; it should not have been changed and I should have been told the pitfalls to make informed decision. None of that happened. To keep this on topic: the picture on some of the "new" channels was fine, but some were obviously upconverted and second rate. "Wanting a thing to be so does not make it so" as spoken by T'Pal on Enterprise. We all want this MPEG4 to be worthy of the promise. But that does not make it worthy.
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Old 10-26-2007, 03:36 PM   #18  
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In insane society a sane man would appear insane and the postings over the last few hours prove it. Direct Quote from DirecTV just now on the phone: "There is no $5 extra HD package. There is only the ones we have had all along. On december 15, there will be a $5 extra charge for HDNet because we are moving it to the extra package. You never had ESPNHD in your old package." Even though I did actually watch it for over a year. So stop attacking me for relating the facts as they have happened to me. Stop making fun of me like you are superior. If you all want to keep spending and spending more money and feeding the machine, go ahead. It encourages them (DTV) to increase price and take away product. I reserve the right to express my opinion on the topic. Many have related similar problems with D* telling multiple tales at various times. This is just another in a long string. At no time have I made any references to any other posters specifically or their sanity. Stop abusing me with personal attacks.
nobodys takin personal shots but what your basically saying really makes no sense what so ever why would anyone be unhappy with a $10 fee for 40 channels and better picture quality then the old $10 package with 10 channels who have inferior picture quality IMO you aren't making any sense
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Old 10-26-2007, 04:25 PM   #19  
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nobodys takin personal shots but what your basically saying really makes no sense what so ever why would anyone be unhappy with a $10 fee for 40 channels and better picture quality then the old $10 package with 10 channels who have inferior picture quality IMO you aren't making any sense
He's talking about having to upgrade is viewing plan. Using the new equipment, his family plan, lost some HD channels. Basically they are charging $13 to upgrade his package to view what he once had in HD.

One thing to remember is that plans and services change. A good friend of mine, for example, has a killer package, paying something like $50 for cable broadband and TV service, from once Adelphia. Now Time Warner is his provider but is honoring the same package. But he was told if he changes his plan, (i.e. HD upgrade) he will be paying a lot more cash, as he would have to go by the package that TWC now offers.

Seems like my buddy and this guy are on the same boat. Upgrade and are basically forced to pay more money for similar services. But to call it a bait and switch tactic is a straight up lie by advertisments on their websites alone.
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Old 10-26-2007, 04:26 PM   #20  
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The entire point of the four minutes another poster regretted wasting on this is that nobody is getting 40 channels for $10. That is the big lie and the predatory business practice I believe is unfair. Several CSR DTV people repeated that "promise" over and over on the phone to get me to schedule the upgrade. Then during the download and update, I watched channel after channel come up "not available at this level" or words to that effect. ESPNHD actually did appear for a while, then got yanked "live" before my eyes. Ten HD channels including ESPNHDx2 for $10 is one thing; more like twelve but not including ESPNHD at all for what amounts to $23 is quite another and that is the real world outcome they don't tell you about.
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Old 10-26-2007, 04:29 PM   #21  
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The entire point of the four minutes another poster regretted wasting on this is that nobody is getting 40 channels for $10. That is the big lie and the predatory business practice I believe is unfair. Several CSR DTV people repeated that "promise" over and over on the phone to get me to schedule the upgrade. Then during the download and update, I watched channel after channel come up "not available at this level" or words to that effect. ESPNHD actually did appear for a while, then got yanked "live" before my eyes. Ten HD channels including ESPNHDx2 for $10 is one thing; more like twelve but not including ESPNHD at all for what amounts to $23 is quite another and that is the real world outcome they don't tell you about.
actually it is 40 would u like me to name them? its like they say "u cant please them all" this would be a perfect example, especially considering the majority are very happy with directv for pulling through on their promise so far

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Old 10-26-2007, 06:26 PM   #22  
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In an insane society a sane man would appear insane. I don't appreciate being attacked for speaking the truth and the facts as they happened to me personally. If the lemmings want to all run over the cliff, they are free to do so. I choose to remain where I am if so-called progress consists of giant steps backward that raid my wallet.
There is nothing supreme about HD. It's only television. It's not a cure for cancer. It's mainly for rich people with more money than brains and that is OK. I am using my brain to make a decision about allocating my limited financial resources. I provided true facts previously not on the record about MPEG4 pricing so people can make up their minds not in a vacuum.
upgraded all my equipment, no price change here either.
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Old 10-26-2007, 07:10 PM   #23  
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The entire point of the four minutes another poster regretted wasting on this is that nobody is getting 40 channels for $10. That is the big lie and the predatory business practice I believe is unfair. Several CSR DTV people repeated that "promise" over and over on the phone to get me to schedule the upgrade. Then during the download and update, I watched channel after channel come up "not available at this level" or words to that effect. ESPNHD actually did appear for a while, then got yanked "live" before my eyes. Ten HD channels including ESPNHDx2 for $10 is one thing; more like twelve but not including ESPNHD at all for what amounts to $23 is quite another and that is the real world outcome they don't tell you about.
I have a simple solution for you. Go back to Cable or Dish and then see if the price "increase" with D* would not have been worth it.

You keep going on and on about this like your trying to change our Opinions on D*. Give it up and just move on.
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Old 10-27-2007, 06:18 AM   #24  
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Still, do you math and compare to cable. When I had TWC, UHD, HDNET, & HDNET Movies was not in my HD package, unless I paid another $7.00/month. And that was 3 years ago. D* is starting to do this, but they waited a lot longer.

In order for me to have the same package (only less HD) I would have to pay a lot more, and get less. Not to mention that in 3 years of HD with TWC, they promised me from the beginning that they were going to add more HD. And in that time, I NEVER received even one.

Add up having all the channels, 3 DVR's etc., and I would be paying $45.00/month more the get even close with TWC. Not to mention that wonderful "Universal Connectivity Charge" you pay with cable & phone that does not apply to Sats.

So bitch if you must, but apples for apples D* kills on programming. However if you want VOIP Phone, & internet, cable might be the way to go.
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Old 10-27-2007, 06:34 AM   #25  
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In an insane society a sane man would appear insane...
I noticed you like this phrase and used it more than once in a thread...hmmm. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that maybe what you've experienced is truly unique, but that the notion that you were targeted is truly of your own making.

As you can see...everyone else on this thread has not experienced your ordeal and this new HD package truly is good!
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Old 10-27-2007, 02:26 PM   #26  
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I noticed you like this phrase and used it more than once in a thread...hmmm. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that maybe what you've experienced is truly unique, but that the notion that you were targeted is truly of your own making.

As you can see...everyone else on this thread has not experienced your ordeal and this new HD package truly is good!
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Old 10-28-2007, 03:33 AM   #27  
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If you have older E86 or similar and on lowest tier family package with HD upgrade, WATCH OUT! I endured a six hour nightmare yesterday that ended up with the "new" H20 being deactivated at 11 PM and my old MPEG2 relit and back in business. Trouble is, their shell game takes away ESPNHD and more when you "upgrade." I would have to pay an extra $13 a month to get back to where I had been for years on the old MPEG2 plans. They don't tell you this up front and "apologize for inconvenience" when confronted with their bait and switch tactics. They also got nasty saying "all sales final" and threatened to ruin my credit with a $500 termination charge. Eventually they backed down to a "three day grace period" and will send me an empty box to ship the H20 back with no harm no foul. They told me to keep the new 5L dish at no charge. It took five of their people spread across three calls over a six hour period to get me a semblance of what I had before at the same price. DO NOT believe the glowing testimonials of 38 HD channels for the same price. It is a lie. If you have an upgrade scheduled, cancel it while there is time and be happy with what you have. The more people who keep MPEG2, the longer they will have to wait before shutting it down. Dig in! --Tom in Tucson
You know, I know your not telling the truth here and I hope people dont buy into your BS, its 9.99 for hd access and you lost 4 (smithsonian being the only one worth anything) HD channels and gained 38. If the four HD only channels are that important to you it would be worth the 4.99 to have them.

Sounds to me like it would have been fixed with ease. There are a few glitches in the system but most people just call up and ask what’s wrong not ask why dtv is persecuting them LOL.

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Old 10-28-2007, 09:02 AM   #28  
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I think I now understand what the original poster is referring to and is upset about. He wants to keep the Family package, but the Family package has only 9 channels in HD. He's upset because he's had 9 or so HD channels for the past "however" long for his 9.99 HD access fee. Now for the same 9.99 HD access fee he is going to be getting 9 or so channels still, but they don't include some of his favorites like ESPN/ESPN2 in HD. He is going to have to upgrade his package to Choice or Choice Xtra in order to view all the HD channels most of us view and are raving about.
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Old 10-28-2007, 09:15 AM   #29  
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In an insane society a sane man would appear insane. I don't appreciate being attacked for speaking the truth and the facts as they happened to me personally. If the lemmings want to all run over the cliff, they are free to do so. I choose to remain where I am if so-called progress consists of giant steps backward that raid my wallet.
There is nothing supreme about HD. It's only television. It's not a cure for cancer. It's mainly for rich people with more money than brains and that is OK. I am using my brain to make a decision about allocating my limited financial resources. I provided true facts previously not on the record about MPEG4 pricing so people can make up their minds not in a vacuum.
If we have more money than brains, Why do we have more money??
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If we have more money than brains, Why do we have more money??
Maybe we all won the Lotto or we just won a Lawsuit by Suing McDonald's for too Hot of Coffee.
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