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Old 10-03-2004, 08:37 AM   #1  
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Question Toshiba 26HF84

hello.

does anyone have any info on the toshiba 26" HDTV?

I can't find any reviews for this TV, and how it compares to Samsung.

help is appreciated...thanks
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Old 10-04-2004, 06:28 AM   #2  
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Looking for any input on this Toshiba model 26HF84. Have not yet seen in and brick & mortor stores. I am hoping it does not have the same issues that are being reported by "some" 30HF84 users. This set should fit my need perfectly for now. Low price point , Good Size for my entertaiment center( due to spekears on bottom) , Lots of inputs. Only will need to add HDCP>HIMMI Connection.(cable dongel)
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Old 10-04-2004, 04:00 PM   #3  
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Yeah, I know. Its margins look much narrower than the others due to the speakers being on the bottom.

I guess nobody has bought one yet, orrrr..?:-)
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Old 10-05-2004, 11:28 PM   #4  
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I just bought the Toshiba 26-inch Widescreen HDTV (26HF84) at Futureshop in Canada today. I paid $674.99 Canadian ($534.99 US). It is perfect for my new high-end HomeTheater bedroom SETUP and I think I got a really good deal.

I was looking at the Samsung and Toshiba, side-by-side in the store and the Toshiba one just looked cooler and it had an HDMI connection on the back.

But I have a question, Are there any home-theater in a box setups that support HDMI???? or perhaps coming soon???

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Old 10-24-2004, 08:38 PM   #5  
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Yeah, I know. Its margins look much narrower than the others due to the speakers being on the bottom.

I guess nobody has bought one yet, orrrr..?:-)
Bestbuy,circuitcityand Pcrichard arent carrying the 26in in NY. I think the only place you can get is on line. Crutchfield and and a few others have it. I hate to buy a tv on line.
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Old 10-26-2004, 09:27 AM   #6  
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hello.

does anyone have any info on the toshiba 26" HDTV?

I can't find any reviews for this TV, and how it compares to Samsung.

help is appreciated...thanks
HI.. I have the Toshiba 30" which is the larger sister of the 26"...
the manual is the same for both.. the set is teriffic... great picture
and not too hard to operate... many menu's to master but simple
when done... factor color setting totally suck but it's easy to
customize a personal "memory" setting.. HDMI input shows slightly
better than the component input but you have to look pretty hard
and it has to be a good broadcast.. difference shows up mostly on
live sports broadcasts... I'm using DirecTV service with Sammy 360..
and standard OTA antenna tied into system... OTS broadcasts are
pretty amazing, quality-wise... best GEO
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Old 10-27-2004, 03:22 PM   #7  
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Try hhgreg - they seem to be carrying the range - I just bought the 34" model (34HF84) in Atlanta but it was the only one in stock. I believe they had display models of both the 26" and 30".
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Old 11-19-2004, 03:02 PM   #8  
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I just purchased a Toshiba 30" 30HF84, and I need some help on tweaking the setting for good picture quality on non hi-def channels. When I watching HDESPN the picture looks good but when I watch regular ESPN the picture looks grainy and fuzzy.
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Old 11-19-2004, 04:20 PM   #9  
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Default toshiba 30HF84 settings

I also have the Toshiba 30 inch HF34 and am loving it... took a month or so to fully tweak but it's getting better all the time... I did notice a slight improvement when using the HDMI input from my Sammy 360 using DirecTV.. but also on the OTA signal... I recently purchased the AVIA Home Theater DVD for tuning the set and it is worth having.. however, here are the settings that seem an ideal starting point... adjust from these based on variations of broadcast from channel to channed and/or show to show...

(use MEMEORY setting to adjust; the factory settings are garbage)

Brightness 21 (can bring to 28 if overall dark movie, etc)
Contrast 30 (can lower to 26 if overall skin tone seems bright)
Color 08 to 10 (adjust for skin tone but much more gets harsh)
Tint -10 to -15 (adjust for skin tone as per your eye)
Sharpness 25 (between 22 and 25 is ideal and not much difference

I was pretty close to these adjusting by eye, but the AVIA disc really explains each adjustment and has extremely useful charts on the disc for fine tuning. Plenty of AVIA discs on ebay for about $30 with shipping.. can give you referral to source that gives you 30 minutes of phone consulting on any home theater issue if you buy from them... seems like a good deal.. have not made use of phone time yet but will let you know how that works out... LOVE the Toshiba, however.. just wish they planned ahead and had more than one HDMI input for the upscaling DVD decks coming on line with DVI/HDMI output.....best George / Chicago
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Old 11-19-2004, 07:25 PM   #10  
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Just purchased the Toshiba 34HFX84 mid October, in Calgary, AB, Canada.

Recently returned a Sanyo 30744 HDTV to Walmart. Happy with the PQ (allthough the barrel roll phenomenon was present) but was not happy with the inability to adjust tilt. Sanyo was great, called, discussed, and they just said "Return it to Walmart", 40 some days later. (boy I wish they sold Toshiba)

Thought that the Toshiba was the perfect TV for me. Now I'm waiting to see if I was right.

MOM ALWAYS SAYS "you need to say 5 positives before a negative"

- Best Stretch Mode (theatre wide one) to my like. Even prefered it to the Sony 34".

- Adjustments to the picture settings are saved for each input. Great for disabling SVM for high quality images (DVD, HD etc) and for leaving it on for SD Cable. All other settings for each input are saved also.

- Size and esthetics (cabinet appeal) I love the black border arround the tube.... (too many silver electronics IMO.... ) speakers unobtrusive at the bottom of the set. I use 7.1 Hometheater JBL and PIONEER 7.1 DTS/dolby EX setup for sound during movie time. The Set's internal sound is GREAT for regular TV watching (much better than the HF series.--- Cyclone BASS hooah!!!)

- Front AV inputs for the kid's PS/1 or Digital camera or Camcorder.... etc... really missed that on the Sanyo tv I had.

- Dual HDMI inputs, Dual Component, Dual A/V - Svideo and the Front inputs again..... I have to go buy more stuff to hook up now because I can!

Bonus positive.... Lovely, wonderful, excelent, (no barrel roll evident) no distortion issues, great, terrific Picture Quality! Colors were much more preferable to me than the Sony. In the words of a professional guy (Audio/ Video/ Home Theater) who I trust very much (as he wasn't making a dime out of the sale- he does projectors and plasma and LCD and that's it) "the Sony TV's have very vivid colors when viewed beside the competition. That color renditioning can, however, be overpowering when watched for long periods. The colors are almost "CARTOONY" they are so bright and Vivid." - I am forced to agree with the man as I spent a lot of time in various big box stores watching this tv, the Sony, the Panasonic and a couple of others.


NOW THE DIRT.... I had read the negatives on this set, it's sister HF and siblings 30HF and 30HFX84 and still felt that I had done enough independant thinking and shopping on the issue.
I was still very happy with the set on SD theatre wide 1 watching Boston put away the Yankees.

TROUBLE with GEOMETRY became evident while watching a DVD on Component inputs. MOST of my movies are WideScreen enhanced/anamorphic, with an aspect ratio of 2.35:1 (or 2.40:1) where you get the horizontal bars top and bottom.

The top of the screen has a horizontal geometry problem where the middle of the top horizontal line bows downward from the left and right corners about one half an inch lower than the height of the top corners.

It's not very apparent untill you have the extreme contrast of the bars against the picture. Then I went back to SD cable and noticed that this geometry problem affects ALL inputs on the TV.

My TV service guy was great in his coming over last Saturday, but couldn't fix the issue. HE sees it too and feels that he needs to try to correct the problem.....

I'VE been obsessing about the issue and finally got a hold of Toshiba Service in Vancouver... They returned my call within three days and are sending the TV store service man back to me with some kind of resolution to the issue. As the Toshiba rep. put it: "IF the geometry problem described is a half an inch out, that would be too much....." he was surprised that I said it was as much as a 1/2 inch out and he will contact the service man to discuss the problem before the service guy comes back...

This is my experience to date with the Toshiba 34HFX84. I will be updating the service as it happens. (Toshiba called me last night at 1900 hrs BC time. 2000 hrs in Alberta) I will trust in the process with Toshiba as their rep was very courteous and attentive. He has encouraged me to get back to him if the next service is not satisfactory.....

To anyone considering Toshiba.... Hang in there and find out what happens with me and this set....

Sorry for the long post, I wanted to be thorough.
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Old 11-19-2004, 07:26 PM   #11  
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Cool Well now I know....

Toshiba Canada Vancouver Service rep TAD, suggested to Atlas TV Calgary, to try to install "chevron magnets" on the tube of the tv to straighten out the black bar at the top of my widescreen DVD images (2.35 or 2.40:1 ratio movies). They say (Atlas) that they tried it on the tv at the shop (demo) and no improvement.

Called Toshiba back and the response was that if it was less than a half an inch, that there would be nothing that they could do...measured the amount of pincushion droop and it's about 1/4 of an inch... too little to do anything with: unless it's plasma or lcd flat panel I've been told that geometry will not be perfect and that's all there is to that....

NOW I notice geometry problems on EVERY tv I see.... sh*t.
time to save big $$$$$$$$ for that LCD front projector.....
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Old 11-27-2004, 10:02 PM   #12  
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HD Cowboy: I am currently looking into purchasing the 34HFX84 and I wanted to know from you if the geometry issues are major enough to make you regret the purchase.

This model and the 30HFX84 are the only HD tube tv's on the market that will fit my entertainment center, so this complicates the matter for me. I really don't want to end up with a 27 inch tv, but if the 34HFX84 is not a great tv, I will probably have no choice. Quality is most important to me, so I would have to sacrifice in size if the Toshiba is not all it should be.

Please let me know your thoughts,
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Old 11-28-2004, 03:22 AM   #13  
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Thumbs up NOTHING'S Perfect!

Nothing is perfect. yes I am repeating myself. kinda like a mantra if you will.

No, I do not regret the purchase. I am kicking myself for not having bought from a store that has a liberal return policy though.

I think that I stated the droop is about 1/4" or so.


I have seen HF and HFX tv's with slightly less geometry trouble... so, if I had bought from say F.S. in Canada, with the 30 day no hassle return or exchange, I probably could have ended up with a tv with only the slightest geometry problem.
It is only evident with the widescreen movies with 2.35:1 aspect ratio. (black bars present) 4:3 mode is actually very good. As is 1.85:1 movies or any stretched standard def cable.
In my case anything that fills the screen vertically is very OK.
I am going to activate my HDTV STB in the morning and see how that is and will update here after viewing. Stuck with Shaw on this issue though and that's the big 6 channels with 50% of them being the same as other.... One day on the demo in the store there were 3 channels with PBS HD. WOO HOO! (can't mount dish due to condo bylaw).... I'll post the HD result tomorrow night.

To sum up, for the dollar, the appeal of the cabinet, color, size, shape and functions and stretch modes and input options GREAT tv. Really.

Just wish that Toshiba wasn't weasling out of customer satisfaction.... My problem might not bother some, but it bothers me and I thought that would be enough to have Toshiba work with me on this....

Last note, was watching Bruce Lee Enter the Dragon in 2.35:1 tonight and I notice the bent bar less than ever.... good luck with the decision making. Stay tuned for HD report. ALL TV's HAVE SOME KIND OF ISSUE>>>> whatever it is.
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My 34HF84 does not seem to have any black bar distortion or droop. I am generally very pleased with it in both DirectTV SD mode (stations vary considerably in signal quality) and for DVDs. I have yet to arrange for an HD service.
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Old 11-28-2004, 10:23 PM   #15  
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It's here... despite all my trouble (percieved and otherwise) with my Toshiba TV, My HDTV is finally HD! Shaw Motorola 6408 up and running this morning, and WOW Can't believe that I waited this long... Can't notice geometry problems when you are captivated by all of that detail in the picture. Recorded my first show tonight, can't wait to see how it turned out. Watched some of ICE AGE and the detail is definitely there over the DVD. Don't get me wrong though... DVD is still where it's at for no commercial viewing.... Just cant get over the images... Disappointing the black bar thing while watching the football games today though. The bars are smaller than 4:3 natural mode on my TV, and the detail is great, I just wish that the networks would get with the times man, I mean 16:9 is here, why don't they try to keep up? God, thankyou for my HDTV (and the deer I shot last week- they're both mmm mmm good)


edit: this issue of geometry, remember folks we are only talking about 1/4" variance in this horizontal line.... tonight I put the tape back on it and depending how you hold it, some might call it 3/16". If you are not anal like me about wishing that the whole world was perfect YOU may not even SEE what I'm talking about. Just enjoy your tv, no matter what kind you get.... That's what I'm gonna do.

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