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Old 12-26-2008, 08:51 PM   #1  
How can anyone watch standard def?
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Default Pc to HDTV = cassette tape quality

As the title says, my setup of my PC, which I designed to watch HDTV DVDs and stuff on, outputs about as well as a cassette tape would for video. Images are horrendously blurry and blotchy, and sometimes real grainy. My VGA cable works better than the HDMI one, no resolution I set that too will work with my TV settings to produce any clear picture beyond whatever I am looking at. Eg: Going from movie to desktop to a picture all need diff settings to not look ugly.

I have been told it's cuz I need to dump thousands into a tv, I spent $600 on this Toshiba 32AV500U HDTV with DVI-HDMI cables as well...I figured it should play well. I'm outputting through the geForce 9800 GTX card I have, this is a higher end system. I have already done many troubleshooting things that are software related, including re-installing Vista. Nothing has yet to work.

Normal activities outside of video of any kind and higher definition graphics are fine, though. I have scoured the internet and anyone with this issue never had any replies, hopefully you guys can help, thanks in advance.
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Old 12-27-2008, 07:51 PM   #2  
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Video quality can suffer if you don't have a good CODEC pack installed. What are you using to play video? What types of video are you playing (wmv, divx, vob, etc)?
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No codecs currently after Vista installed, used K-Lite before Vista re-install, no change. Video games do the same thing as well, and they don't use codecs (well..the game includes them.)
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No codecs currently after Vista installed, used K-Lite before Vista re-install, no change. Video games do the same thing as well, and they don't use codecs (well..the game includes them.)
Have you tried K-Lite MEGA codec pack?
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Old 12-27-2008, 09:16 PM   #5  
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Have you tried K-Lite MEGA codec pack?
Yes....

"No codecs currently after Vista installed, used K-Lite before Vista re-install, no change. Video games do the same thing as well, and they don't use codecs (well..the game includes them.)"
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"No codecs currently after Vista installed, used K-Lite before Vista re-install, no change. Video games do the same thing as well, and they don't use codecs (well..the game includes them.)"
Have you downloaded updated drivers for your video card?
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Old 12-27-2008, 09:26 PM   #7  
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Have you downloaded updated drivers for your video card?
Yes. I have done all common troubleshooting techniques. I can get super FPS in video games with maxed settings, I just can't watch any form of video without it looking like it was made of legos and sand. That and textures in games could look better...Crysis looked like it was rendered on a PS2.
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On AVI's use DiviX Pro wand VLC on your HDTV.
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Old 12-27-2008, 11:38 PM   #9  
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On AVI's use DiviX Pro wand VLC on your HDTV.
Tried that. I found out things look...more normal if I run it normal sized, which is so tiny I might as well buy an Ipod and watch it on there, and even then it still looks interlaced and jagged. Is watching movies on a PC just a fleeting fantasy? Is the Hi Def capable video card DVD drive and TV I bought just part of some giant corporate scam?
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Hmmm. I have two HDTVs that I have connected to several different computers, and I haven't noticed any of your issues. Have you tried connecting to a different TV and/or external monitor? Would you list all of the computer components you use (or the make/model if it's an off the shelf computer), and the software you are using to output to the external monitor?
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what resolution are you actually outputting on the VGA? if it's small, then that's probably a problem.

If you're actually getting 720p or 1080p from VGA, then can you please post some specs of the movie files you are playing? I recommend a program called Mediainfo.
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Tried that. I found out things look...more normal if I run it normal sized, which is so tiny I might as well buy an Ipod and watch it on there, and even then it still looks interlaced and jagged. Is watching movies on a PC just a fleeting fantasy? Is the Hi Def capable video card DVD drive and TV I bought just part of some giant corporate scam?
You're doing something wrong then. I just finished working on 2.4GHz laptop installed VLC and DivXPro they can use the laptop to view movies or tv shows shot in HD Avi's on the TV. Works so great they just needed to buy the cables. On the PC side if you have Nvidia or ATI graphics you can use Omega OC drivers with Mult-Res feature. Shouldn't have to tweak VLC if you do you need to that it out of Video Overlay default. Open3GL you could try that. Depends on your Video Card hardware.
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Old 12-28-2008, 06:33 PM   #13  
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http://www.tweakforce.com/modules.ph...er=asc&start=0

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/25...raphical-issue

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?p=2951417

Those are links to 3 diff threads that include pics of the issue and many stats and troubleshooting done by me in other forums, I am honestly exhausted from posting the same thing in many places over and over I'd rather just print out an Everest report with a picture of a sandcastle and say "that's Lord of the Rings in HDTV for me! Please help!"

I'm thinking of selling my graphics card and TV and going to an ATI-based system with a diff brand of HDTV, a bigger one. Or just getting a computer monitor and not even bothering with watching DVDs again, I can't think of anything if you guys seem to be able to do this but I can't.
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Here's what I recommend: remove any current codec packs you have installed and then reboot. Next, install the Haali Media Splitter (http://haali.cs.msu.ru/mkv/). Then, install ffdshow (http://ffdshow-tryout.sourceforge.net/). Reboot your system. Now, follow the basic ffdshow setup (http://www.avsforum. com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=719041) - you may have to tweak some settings to get the results you want (I had to enable deinterlacing and use the 5-tap lowpass setting to get a good picture). Finally, install the Windows XP Video Decoder Checkup Utility (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...iGmuRN6ull754Q) and select the ffdshow video decoder.

See if that helps things!

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Here's what I recommend: remove any current codec packs you have installed and then reboot. Next, install the Haali Media Splitter (http://haali.cs.msu.ru/mkv/). Then, install ffdshow (http://ffdshow-tryout.sourceforge.net/). Reboot your system. Now, follow the basic ffdshow setup (http://www./avs-vb/showthread.php?t=719041) - you may have to tweak some settings to get the results you want (I had to enable deinterlacing and use the 5-tap lowpass setting to get a good picture). Finally, install the Windows XP Video Decoder Checkup Utility (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...iGmuRN6ull754Q) and select the ffdshow video decoder.

See if that helps things!
Ok,I'll try that, but I thought for gaming I don't need any of that stuff? If this solves the video thing that will be good though. I am outputting through 1360x768 resolution, i have a custom one of 1366x768, don't see a diff.

Edit- your link to the FFD show setup is broken, and there are WAY too many options that I know nothing about in regards to video for me to setup the codec...

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