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Old 11-29-2005, 04:15 PM   #1  
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Default HELP!! my pc to 40"sony hdtv resolutions

i have a 40" crt hdtv and am using a geforce fx5200 dvi card
i had to use win XP to get rid of my overscan issues and as of now my tv works great as a pc monitor on the dvi side, heres my issue,
i play a game called world war ii online and until now had no problem using this hdtv at 640x480x32 at 60hz. i am using an nvidia hdtv driver i found a while ago (6.14.10.5304) which allows me to use 640x480x32 resolution. the game has since had a major graphics upgrade which requires me to need a better set of drivers. i went to nvidias site and downloaded their current driver (ForceWare Release 80 Version: 81.95). after installing the new drivers everything went weird, it gave me the option to use 640x480x32 resolution but when i used it the screen shrunk to a 6" cube in the middle of my tv. as i selected other resolution options (tried all of them one at a time) it only changed slightly but agan stayed within that small cube in the middle of the screen. i do not have options on my tv to stretch the screen in any way, so thats out. eventually i switched back to my old driver which fits my screen perfectly. how can i upgrade and get the great picture fit i have now? should i go to another card, or is there any better drivers out there i dont know about?
please help me, the fate of europe depends on it
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Old 11-29-2005, 04:50 PM   #2  
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and see what modes the TV will support. My guess it will be 540p and you could go for that. You may need powerstrip if the nvidia drivers won't support the resolutions reported back.
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Old 11-29-2005, 05:25 PM   #3  
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here it is, i have tried pwr strip in the past with no luck, however it dosent mean im using it right
i did manage to get 77.72 nvidia drivers to work today at 640x480
but i cant understand why the newest drivers wont work.??!?!??
what does this tell you? it seems to me that i should be able to run the res. at 640x480 with any drivers right?


Monitor
Windows description......... Plug and Play Monitor
Manufacturer description.... SONY TV
Manufacturer................ Sony
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Plug and Play ID............ SNY00F8
Serial number............... n/a
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Manufacture date............ 2002
EDID revision............... 1.3
Display type and signal..... Digital
Sync input support.......... n/a
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Timing characteristics
VESA GTF support............ Not supported
Horizontal scan range....... 15-46kHz
Vertical scan range......... 59-61Hz
Video bandwidth............. 80MHz
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Timing recommendation #2.... 1920x1080 at 30Hz
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Timing recommendation #3.... 720x480 at 60Hz
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Timing recommendation #4.... 1280x720 at 60Hz
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Timing recommendation #5.... 1440x240 at 60Hz
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Timing recommendation #6.... 1440x480 at 30Hz
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Standard timings supported
640 x 480 at 60Hz - IBM VGA
720 x 480 at 60Hz - Sony
1280 x 720 at 60Hz - Sony
1440 x 240 at 60Hz - Sony
1440 x 480 at 30Hz - Sony
1920 x 540 at 60Hz - Sony
1920 x 1080 at 30Hz - Sony

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Display adapter
Adapter description......... NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200
Adapter device ID........... 0x032210DE
Display settings............ 640x480, 32bpp

User/computer information
Registered user name........ n/a
Registered organization..... n/a
Network user name........... n/a
Network computer name....... M-IEYSP5UBYSIHN
Windows version ............ Windows XP
Windows build .............. 5.01.2600 Service Pack 2
Installation date .......... 4/1/2005 12:00:00 PM
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When you say "get it to work" are you talking about in the game, or at the desktop? It is possible the game will not support any resolution other than 640x480 and that's why the new driver is placing it in the center 640x480 area of the screen.

I'd try for the 1280x720p/60Hz option and let the TV scale it, probably to ???x540p. Get the desktop working first then see if the game will work.
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Old 11-29-2005, 08:28 PM   #5  
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im sorry, when i say get it to work this is what i mean, the game is not the problem because i can tweak the resolutions the game itself accepts, as for the desktop...well thats the issue. i have the desktop at 640x480x32 now with the 77.72 drivers, this is great!!!
my goal was to get the better drivers that just were released by nvidia. when i put in the new drivers, everything on the desktop goes to hell. it shrank the screen into the cube i explained no matter what resolution i picked, why it does this i dont know seeing its main advantage was supposed to be hdtv support. i know it sounds funny but trust me when i say 640x480x32 is the best full screen resolution for this set, the pic is AWESOME!!! i just would like better drivers that give me the ability to run decent frame rates on my game, while keeping 640x480 as my resolution (on the desktop)
as i said before, the best drivers that "work" are these 77.72 drivers, but i would like to know if theres any other drivers out there that are current and will work for me, also when i build a new rig later on, what type of card do i buy that will support my 640x480 and give me gaming graphics and frame rates??
hope that clears things up
BY THE WAY THANKS FOR THE QUICK RESPONSE AND YOUR PATIENCE HELPING ME THRU THIS
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Old 11-30-2005, 03:40 AM   #6  
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Part of the problem is your 4:3 CRT... all HDTV res's are widescreen, like 1280 x 720p/60 or even 853 x 480p/30 which is EDTV. Sounds like your TV auto-letterboxes all signals over 480i...
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Old 11-30-2005, 06:53 AM   #7  
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it does letterbox, but only if i force it to, otherwise its in standard full screen and works fine at 640x480. what im not understanding is why im having trouble with newer drivers making the picture shrink.
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