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Old 09-24-2004, 11:02 PM   #1  
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Default Nvidia 5200 to Sony XBR 40"CRT???

I have just started Tinkering in Hi def a year ago. My first purchase was a Sony XBR 40 Inch. Picture is awesome , But no widescreen is annoying. I bought it under the assumption that as nice a pic as all the new hi tech tv's have , the CRT's still dominated with Reliability and Black level's. Anyway , to my problem. I also believed that with the DVI connection I could connect my Dell 8300 with a Nvidia 5200 graphics card to the set..I have the computer connected to a dell Flat panel with a 1024 x768 resolution setting and can adjust at will through a DVI connection!! Now that I study your website and learn about Burn IN , My main objective , To play games and watch movies in High DEF is pretty much shot!! But my curiousity still peaked, I connected the computer to the Sony XBR 40 . My Graphics card is no longer adjustable , It will only display in the lowest setting 600 x ????. Hertz goes from 75 down to 60 with no adjustment .. I installed powerstrip , No help. I tried manually changing the Driver to accept 1080 . No good . I am pretty stumped. I was planning on buying the ATI 9800 with Break out box and remote to incorporate everything I wanted into one package( camcorder plug in, DVR, Hi def dvd player) But I don't know if the tv will accept my plans??? It plays in 1080i through 2 component connections and 1 DVI plug??? This disapointment will go along with my purchase of the samsung hd931 HD DVD player with DVI output. Pic is crisp but it compresses it so much it is not worth watching on a 4/3 or any widescreen I think for that matter.I just use it in progressive scan mode. Any one with any ideas or help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Mike
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Old 09-24-2004, 11:36 PM   #2  
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Its not the tv, but the computer, to be more exact, its the video card itself. It probably recognizes your tv as a tv, not as a monitor. Knowing this, the card is "smart" enough to do it for the t.v. settings. I've also got a 5200. I tried everything. I even got the Video Out feature (via composite connections) and the resolution cant go any higher than 800x600. And ive still got an overscan issue. However, then nice thing is that it plays movies, and only movies playing in windows media player 9 and 10 series, very well.
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Old 09-25-2004, 10:01 AM   #3  
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I assume you were talking about connected via the DVI port. The problem I had was getting the video card set to interlace at the 1080 setting. The first setting turned out to be 1080p which is what is assumed by powerstrip.


Also at this point I will say that I have an ATI Radeon, so the nvidia card could have different choices.

Go to this link:
MonInfo
and download this program. It will allow your video hardware to ask your TV what resolutions it will accept through the DVI port. Knowing that will eliminate some of the trial and error methods of trying many resolutions. Hopefully the 1920x1080i will be listed.

Next, I would try in powerstrip to pick a standard resolution that matches a resolution reported back by MonInfo.

Note for setting resolution you want to get into the powerstrip display configuration software and click on the "Advanced Timing Options" button. Next click on the "Custom resolutions" button. The interlaced resolutions will be near the bottom of the list and most 60hz monitors will need one of the 1920x1080i resolutions. If those resolutions are not listed, it is an indication your nvidia card won't accept them.

Good luck.
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Old 09-30-2004, 11:42 AM   #4  
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OK. I downloaded mon info and hooked up to the 40 inch. This is The capabilities of my Television.
Monitor
Windows description......... Plug and Play Monitor
Manufacturer description.... SONY TV
Manufacturer................ Sony
覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧
Plug and Play ID............ SNY00F8
Serial number............... n/a
覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧
Manufacture date............ 2002
EDID revision............... 1.3
Display type and signal..... Digital
Sync input support.......... n/a
Screen size................. n/a
Power management............ Not supported

Color characteristics
Display gamma............... 2.20
Red chromaticity............ Rx 0.625 - Ry 0.340
Green chromaticity.......... Gx 0.280 - Gy 0.595
Blue chromaticity........... Bx 0.155 - By 0.070
White point (default)....... Wx 0.283 - Wy 0.298

Timing characteristics
VESA GTF support............ Not supported
Horizontal scan range....... 15-46kHz
Vertical scan range......... 59-61Hz
Video bandwidth............. 80MHz
Extension blocks............ 1
Timing recommendation #1.... 1920x1080 at 30Hz
Modeline................ "1920x1080" 74.250 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1094 1124 interlace +hsync +vsync
Timing recommendation #2.... 720x480 at 60Hz
Modeline................ "720x480" 27.000 720 736 798 858 480 489 495 525 -hsync -vsync

Standard timings supported
640 x 480 at 60Hz - IBM VGA
720 x 480 at 60Hz - Sony
1920 x 1080 at 30Hz - Sony

Raw EDID (1)
00: 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 4D D9 F8 00 01 01 01 01
10: 00 0C 01 03 80 00 00 78 0A 0D C9 A0 57 47 98 27
20: 12 48 4C 20 00 00 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01
30: 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 1D 80 18 71 1C 16 20 58 2C
40: 25 00 00 00 00 00 00 9E 8C 0A D0 8A 20 E0 2D 10
50: 10 3E 96 00 00 00 00 00 00 18 00 00 00 FC 00 53
60: 4F 4E 59 20 54 56 0A 20 20 20 20 20 00 00 00 FD
70: 00 3B 3D 0F 2E 08 00 0A 20 20 20 20 20 20 01 02

Display adapter
Adapter description......... NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200
Adapter device ID........... 0x032210DE
Display settings............ 640x480, 32bpp
MonInfo - Monitor Asset Manager
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From what I can tell. It can do 1920 x1080 but only at 30 hertz. I tried all different configs with powerstrip, but could not get my nvidia card to downgrade to 30 HZ. The highest RES I could achievs was 1920 x 500 at 60 hz. Will a better video card allow me to slow down t o 30 HZ or are my possibilities of getting Hi def with my computer down the tubes. Thanks for all the help and info. Greatly appreciated. Mike
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Old 09-30-2004, 06:03 PM   #5  
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Ok the 30Hz indicates interlaced timings, so that's why powerstrip won't let you set it down that far.
There should be an interlaced box you can check and with it checked, the timing should be 60Hz.

On my ATI Radeon card, I set the 1920x1080i using the Advanced timing / Custom resolution. The interlace resolutions were near the bottom of the list after all of the progressive resolution.

Those timing recommendations are the same as my TV and I found that I could also do the 540p resolutions, btw.
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No , I don't get any interlaced options , only progressive. I was going to upgrade my card to the ati 9800 pro , So I guess that is what I will do next. One other thing though at 1920 x 540 p The overscan is really bad. Will it get better at 1080 i or is that another problem I need to contend with? If I go get the res up to 1080i will my dvd playback programs allow me to play the dvd's in 1080i or are there special programs to upgrade the pic to Hi Def? Thanks again Mike
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Overscan is something you have to work arround. The DVD player software in the PC will scale the picture to whatever resolution your video card is set for, so that shouldn't be a problem. The ATI card should offer you the interlaced timings. On my TVs the overscan is a little less at 1080i, but nothing to shout about.
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