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Old 11-19-2015, 09:53 AM   #1  
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Hi everyone, been a while since my last post and I'm sure this has been discussed numerous times but I can't find any threads specific to what I'm looking for so here goes. I seem to be part of a tiny percentage of people that doesn't have a DVR. I was wondering if I could set this up on a PC. In a little research I've done it said the PC needs WMC, and a PCI TV capture card or 2 if I want to record 2 shows at once, but it says to hookup from cable receiver to the capture card, so how would I do 2 at once? Would I need some sort of splitter between the cable box and the 2 capture cards? Also, let's say by some miracle I get the PC setup properly and recording the shows that I want. Can I then hook up the PC to my Receiver in order to watch it on my TV? Also, the potential PC that I would want to do this on doesn't have HDMI. Can I add HDMI to it somehow? Seems like a much cheaper route and no monthly fees once I get it all setup. Can someone point me in the right direction? Also, I have Charter cable if that matters. Thanks.
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Old 11-19-2015, 03:38 PM   #2  
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OK, you would need a fast PC, one with lets say with a 64 bit OS an i5 or i7 CPU (or equivalent) and the maximum ram memory for that PC, then a good PCI express TV card can be used but it will only work for off air signals, or CATV signals if you have CATV stations in the clear.

Next would be an add on video card with an HDMI output to send the video to your TV set.

Note: You can not directly record from a CATV set top box, DVD or BlueRay player via HDMI to an external recorder, there are copy-guard signals that prevent this, you can record via RF, (TV or CATV signals on say TV channels 3 or 4) Video, (Yellow/Red/White RCA jacks) or component video. (Red/Green/Blue RCA jacks with optical audio or the Red/White audio jacks)

There are ways around this but I can't tell you how.

And they make video or RF splitters to run several sets at once, they even make componenet video and HDMI splitters but the copy-guard is in place for that type of connection.

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I use the Ceton InfiniTV 4 external cable tuner which attaches to a PC via a USB port. Mine has 4 cable tuners and they also have a 6 tuner unit. You have to get a cable card from your cable company. And yes, you will need a video card that has a HDMI port and supports HDCP. I use a Nvidia g210 which is fairly inexpensive. With the InfiniTV 4 tuner you can view/record up to 4 shows at any given time.
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I use the Ceton InfiniTV 4 external cable tuner which attaches to a PC via a USB port. Mine has 4 cable tuners and they also have a 6 tuner unit. You have to get a cable card from your cable company. And yes, you will need a video card that has a HDMI port and supports HDCP. I use a Nvidia g210 which is fairly inexpensive. With the InfiniTV 4 tuner you can view/record up to 4 shows at any given time.
I used the HDHomerun for quite a while but can't use it now as with COX and WMC I can't get a guide since they changed the settings for providing guides and COX doesn't seem to care. I wonder if a Ceton would work with them. Do you have any knowledge of how the guide service is working in different areas. I heard they had problems here (in AZ) and in Oklahoma, Louisiana and possibly Texas with the guides.
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I used the HDHomerun for quite a while but can't use it now as with COX and WMC I can't get a guide since they changed the settings for providing guides and COX doesn't seem to care. I wonder if a Ceton would work with them. Do you have any knowledge of how the guide service is working in different areas. I heard they had problems here (in AZ) and in Oklahoma, Louisiana and possibly Texas with the guides.
The guide in WMC is retrieved from the internet on, I believe, Microsoft servers. If Cox doesn't provide the info, then the WMC can't get them. Switching to Ceton probably won't make any difference as it is a Cox to Microsoft issue.

Just out of curiosity, does the titantv.com guide work for you? If so, then Cox is supplying them the info.

This may be helpful: http://forums.cox.com/forum_home/tv_.../4/t/7583.aspx

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I think someone should point out, Microsoft will no longer update or support Windows Media Center and the small group that has been using it for the last few years are often abandoning it now. It isn't something I could recommend building today, lack of guide data for WMC is common for many services now.

Read this for one of many articles regarding the dire state of WMC.

https://www.thurrott.com/windows/331...center-is-dead
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The guide in WMC is retrieved from the internet on, I believe, Microsoft servers. If Cox doesn't provide the info, then the WMC can't get them. Switching to Ceton probably won't make any difference as it is a Cox to Microsoft issue.

Just out of curiosity, does the titantv.com guide work for you? If so, then Cox is supplying them the info.

This may be helpful: http://forums.cox.com/forum_home/tv_.../4/t/7583.aspx
Titan does work perfectly, but that is only on the internet. I hadn't used it for a long time. Can't even remember what I used it for before.

I tried WMC again with just my TV antenna and it came up with the guide fine with that. Is this any indication that it will work with COX also? I only have cable or satellite for college football as I use my antenna with my computers and BeyondTV which still works beautifully. I'll probably wait until next August to see if WMC is working with COX. The signals work fine through HDHomeRun but no guide the last time I tried (I think it was 2014).

I do appreciate your info so if you have any updates let me know.
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