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Old 01-06-2012, 06:26 AM   #1  
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I connected a HTPC with an HDMI video card to an 1080p 120 Hz LED TV. It seems the text is not as crisp as when it's on a computer monitor. I also see some "yellowing" between some letters on a white background.

Is it because a TV is meant to be viewed far away...vs. in your face like a monitor?
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Old 01-06-2012, 11:50 AM   #2  
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Not necessarily. What you describe could be caused by a couple of things. First the "yellowing" could be because of the sharpness setting. Generally this setting should be set to zero, although some TVs require higher settings for the crisp text. This is intended for crappy video enhancement and it generally not necessary for computer or high definition video.

Second, you need to be sure the TV is not doing any scaling of the incoming video. For example if you have a 1366x768 set and you feed it a 1080i or 720p signal then the TV will scale the incoming video to match your 1366x768 TV resolution. Also if you have a 1920x1080 set and the overscan is not turned off it will cause blurry text due to scaling.

Every TV manufacturer calls these settings by a different name, but on an LG, for example, to get the overscan turned off, the ratio is set for just scan.
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I do see what you mean by Sharpness adjustment. I can see that the "shadow" to the right of the words slowly fade away as I adjust Sharpness to Zero. What exactly does this parameter mean? Does this affect stuff like WMC or Youtube?

The only "Oversccan" I found was in the "Aspect" button. It has these settings:
Standard: looks like a full screen
Fill: Zooms in
Overscan: Zoom in more

It doesn't look like it's the same thing as what you are refering to.

According to the nVida control panel, it's set to 1920x1080 60Hz
There is also a Desktop Resize mode that has: Auto, Overscan, Underscan, but this doesn't seem to do anything noticable. But I presume the Scan you're talking about is on the TV itself anyway.
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I effects all video. Is your TV a 1080p? The Standard seems to be the correct one. Sounds like some processing is still going on. If you have a game mode try that. Game mode will bypass most of the video processing.

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Old 01-08-2012, 04:58 AM   #5  
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Westinghouse 40" 1080p 120Hz LED-LCD HDTV LD-4080.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...tent-_-text-_-

I don’t see a “Game Mode” setting anywhere on the TV menus.

I did find a similar complaint someone had in the review section but they said they solved it by using a DVI-HDMI adapter. How is this supposed to work? I still don't get what TV overscan means. He says it doesn't do pixel-to-pixel mapping, but what does it do when converting 1080p to...uh...1080p? Is 1080p like some type of "TV signal" and DVI is a true "1920x1080 computer signal"?

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A few bugs, great value

Pros: Generally excellent picture, multiple HDMI connections, amazing price.

Cons: Poor stand and sound (already beaten to death by other reviewers), loses all settings when power is lost, VERY POOR COMPUTER PICTURE QUALITY AND NO DVI INPUT - but see Other Thoughts on both.

Other Thoughts: Terrible, grainy picture from computer via HDMI. Unlike every other monitor I know of - including other Westys - no way to force monitor timing for PC. Other monitors have one HDMI input dedicated for PC, or allow pixel-by-pixel mapping to override television overscan, or have a dropdown to choose the type of input. Since this is fed from my HDPC this was a showstopper. You could use the VGA connector, but you lose HDCP (meaning, no BluRay, no restricted content Media Center television etc etc.) You could use DVI, but there's no DVI input.

I just hit on the solution: I connected a cheap little DVI-to-HDMI adapter (you probably have one sitting around somewhere or they're just a few bucks) to the DVI output of the PC, then plugged the HDMI cable into that and then into the Westy. Although I lost sound (no great loss on this monitor anyway), the picture was instantly perfect. Too bad the manual doesn't mention this workaround - or simply provide a PC input in the first place.

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my monitor looks better than my samsung 720p tv but not as good as my samsung 1080p led/lcd tv.
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