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Old 10-24-2010, 05:53 AM   #1  
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Hey guys, my old 2005 Ford Focus after 92k miles finally needs a new set of brake pads and rotors. This is the longest i've ever been able to go on any set of original pads/rotors on a car, so i'm not complaining. Before I commit, I wanted to see if you guys think this is an okay combination. I am geting ready to order.........

A pair of Cryo treated Powerslot slotted rotors
A set of Hawk HPS brake pads.

I realize that this may be overkill, but I do want a little more braking power as the original OEM set wasn't very aggressive. It was good, but I want something with a little more bite. Considering that this vehicle is equipped with rear drums, the front brakes do the majority of the work. I've never used this combination before.

My Fusion Hybrid only has 13k miles on it now, so that vehicle won't need brakes for a while.
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Don't see why not, though for a daily driver I prefer EBC's green pads (less brake dust from what I've seen but then again I haven't bought anything performance anytime recently so that may have changed).

If you're gonna crawl under there and do all that might as well get you some braided steel brake lines while you're at it. Cheap and easy to do yourself and really help keep brake feel under hard braking.
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Don't see why not, though for a daily driver I prefer EBC's green pads (less brake dust from what I've seen but then again I haven't bought anything performance anytime recently so that may have changed).

If you're gonna crawl under there and do all that might as well get you some braided steel brake lines while you're at it. Cheap and easy to do yourself and really help keep brake feel under hard braking.
I'm actually going to have the local Chevy dealer do it for me. I don't mess with anything on cars these days. I just don't trust myself anymore. The reason why I have the Chevy dealer do it is that they have serviced my vehicles for a long time, and they also have a lot of performance experience as they also have a motorsports and racing shop in store. The Corvette builds i've seen them doing are just incredible. Performance minded car nuts tend to enjoy their work and take pride in it, versus how your average car mechanic might be doing it just to make a living.

I did think about going to stainless steel braided lines, but they are not DOT legal. I have also had serious problems with braided lines in the past as they tend to start weeping over time. As for brake noise and dust, I think I am the only person in the world who is not concerned about it. I love noisy brakes actually, and I don't mind my rims getting powdercoated black with brake dust. This is the first time i've gone with slotted rotors before, so i'm kinda interested to see how they work.
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I used EBC green's when I replaced them on my old Focus. I was happy with them.
I think they required a bit more pedal pressure if I remember right, nothing substantial however.
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I used EBC green's when I replaced them on my old Focus. I was happy with them.
I think they required a bit more pedal pressure if I remember right, nothing substantial however.
That is partially why i'm not a big fan of budget ceramic pads, as i'm a fan of pads that have a bit of bite to them from the start.
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That is partially why i'm not a big fan of budget ceramic pads, as i'm a fan of pads that have a bit of bite to them from the start.
I don't think they are ceramic.
Car stopped just as well, just had to press a bit harder.
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I'm actually going to have the local Chevy dealer do it for me. I don't mess with anything on cars these days. I just don't trust myself anymore. The reason why I have the Chevy dealer do it is that they have serviced my vehicles for a long time, and they also have a lot of performance experience as they also have a motorsports and racing shop in store. The Corvette builds i've seen them doing are just incredible. Performance minded car nuts tend to enjoy their work and take pride in it, versus how your average car mechanic might be doing it just to make a living.

I did think about going to stainless steel braided lines, but they are not DOT legal. I have also had serious problems with braided lines in the past as they tend to start weeping over time. As for brake noise and dust, I think I am the only person in the world who is not concerned about it. I love noisy brakes actually, and I don't mind my rims getting powdercoated black with brake dust. This is the first time i've gone with slotted rotors before, so i'm kinda interested to see how they work.
Who cares if they're DOT legal... not like the cops are gonna pull your wheels off in a standard pull over and check your brake lines

They should not weep though. They're just ordinary brake lines wrapped in steel braid so the lines can't bulge/expand under heavy braking and heat. And I don't really do my own work anymore either, gotta love living in an apartment complex that doesn't allow that. Oh well...
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That is partially why i'm not a big fan of budget ceramic pads, as i'm a fan of pads that have a bit of bite to them from the start.
I prefer needing a little more pressure for that initial bite, I've got a bit of a heavy foot when it comes to brakes. Really grabby brakes with me driving can be a jerky ride
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I don't think they are ceramic.
Car stopped just as well, just had to press a bit harder.
Yeah, i'm just commenting on my experience with economy purpose ceramic brake pads in general.

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Who cares if they're DOT legal... not like the cops are gonna pull your wheels off in a standard pull over and check your brake lines

They should not weep though. They're just ordinary brake lines wrapped in steel braid so the lines can't bulge/expand under heavy braking and heat. And I don't really do my own work anymore either, gotta love living in an apartment complex that doesn't allow that. Oh well...


I prefer needing a little more pressure for that initial bite, I've got a bit of a heavy foot when it comes to brakes. Really grabby brakes with me driving can be a jerky ride
That should be the case, but i've had horrible problems with braided lines weeping over time. I've had the end links leak before, and i've had the middle of the line itself start to weep.

You gotta also learn to lighten up that foot. I suspect you've probably never driven in snow since you are from SoCal? Around here, I see so many RWD vehicles wrecking when we get a little snow or even heavy rain from people who just don't know when to lift their foot. Traction control systems are spoiling the fun these days though.

I've got a lead foot as well, but for some reason I just like brakes that immediately respond without having to put a lot of pressure on them.
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Yeah, i'm just commenting on my experience with economy purpose ceramic brake pads in general.



That should be the case, but i've had horrible problems with braided lines weeping over time. I've had the end links leak before, and i've had the middle of the line itself start to weep.

You gotta also learn to lighten up that foot. I suspect you've probably never driven in snow since you are from SoCal? Around here, I see so many RWD vehicles wrecking when we get a little snow or even heavy rain from people who just don't know when to lift their foot. Traction control systems are spoiling the fun these days though.

I've got a lead foot as well, but for some reason I just like brakes that immediately respond without having to put a lot of pressure on them.
I've driven in snow... once
I absolutely hated it, also do not like driving in the rain. Something about wet traction that I just do not get. I know when to lift off the gas though, I don't just smash the pedal to the floor. I also drive slow as shit in the rain. Give me a dry lot and I can hang the tail end of a car out and throttle steer no problem, but water just makes me nervous.

I just like stiff brakes, and stiff clutches too
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I've driven in snow... once
I absolutely hated it, also do not like driving in the rain. Something about wet traction that I just do not get. I know when to lift off the gas though, I don't just smash the pedal to the floor. I also drive slow as shit in the rain. Give me a dry lot and I can hang the tail end of a car out and throttle steer no problem, but water just makes me nervous.

I just like stiff brakes, and stiff clutches too
Wussy! You should take a trip to the High Sierra's in the winter with your Mustang and let er rip

I do like a stiff clutch though, but I found out that stiff clutches are a total PITA when you start hitting bumper to bumper traffic on the highway during rush hour.
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Wussy! You should take a trip to the High Sierra's in the winter with your Mustang and let er rip
Yeah... the mighty one tire'o'fire

My mustang is so slow I get blown off the line by base model minivans.

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I do like a stiff clutch though, but I found out that stiff clutches are a total PITA when you start hitting bumper to bumper traffic on the highway during rush hour.
I know all about that... Southern Cali
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I do like a stiff clutch though, but I found out that stiff clutches are a total PITA when you start hitting bumper to bumper traffic on the highway during rush hour.
My knee hurts sometimes when I get stuck!

Just thinking, I wonder how the dual clutch auto's handle bumper to bumper creeping along traffic?
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I don't think they are ceramic.
Car stopped just as well, just had to press a bit harder.
Napa has an exclusive ADO pad. Ceramic on the outboard side (low dusting & noise) and semi-met (better stopping power) on the inside pad. Check them out. They are great!
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Yeah... the mighty one tire'o'fire

My mustang is so slow I get blown off the line by base model minivans.



I know all about that... Southern Cali
Unfortunately for you, cars have gotten so much more insanely powerful since your Mustang was built. We now have basic 4 cylinder cars that are fast as the v6's from a few years ago, and we have v6's that are now faster than the v8's from a few years ago. Look at how the brand new Mustang V6 goes from 0-60 in 5.4 seconds, which is exactly how fast the previous v8 MGT was.

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My knee hurts sometimes when I get stuck!

Just thinking, I wonder how the dual clutch auto's handle bumper to bumper creeping along traffic?
It seems to boil down to how it was calibrated from the factory. Back when I test drove the Jetta TDI with the automated manual dual clutch setup, it got a bit wierd when creeping along in traffic. That is a wet clutch setup if i'm not mistaken.

Then there are the dry clutch setups like the new Ford Powershift which apparantly performs just like an automatic, which is exactly why the car magazines don't like it.

Then there are the ones in the Porsches and premium vehicles that are calibrated for pure performance.

Either way, I like the idea of an automated manual as they eliminate the torque converter.
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I like the idea of an automated manual as they eliminate the torque converter.
I do too,
it gets rid of the fluid and the pump which had an inherent loss.
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