High Def Forum - Your High Definition Community & High Definition Resource

Go Back   High Def Forum - Your High Definition Community & High Definition Resource >
Rules HDTV Forum Gallery LINK TO US! RSS - High Def Forum AddThis Feed Button AddThis Social Bookmark Button Groups

Car Forum Talk about your favorite cars, setups, garages (got pics?)!

Like Tree8977Likes

Muscle Cars 1962 to 1972

Reply
AddThis Social Bookmark Button
 
Thread Tools
Old 06-01-2015, 12:35 PM   #7756  
Muscle Cars Forever!
Thread Starter
 
Lee Stewart's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Posts: 47,284
Default

Did you know . . .

1968 was the first year for the AMC 390 engine (rated at 315 HP). The 390 shared the 343's heads, but had its own block, forged instead of cast crankshaft and connecting rods, and larger bearings. It was only available in the new AMX.



3K73 likes this.
Lee Stewart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2015, 12:58 PM   #7757  
Muscle Cars Forever!
Thread Starter
 
Lee Stewart's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Posts: 47,284
Default



Last edited by Lee Stewart; 08-02-2019 at 07:17 AM..
Lee Stewart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2015, 03:46 PM   #7758  
RALLYSPORT
 

Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Linköping, Sweden
Posts: 87
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee Stewart View Post



It doesn't look like much does it? But looks are deceiving. It's a 1964 Nova 400 with a 283/220 hp V8, 4 speed and 3.55 Posi rear axle. Not very powerful, but it is very light in weight - about 2750 lbs - almost 1000 lbs lighter than a 409 Impala. On the drag strip, the impala would win every time - but on the street, stoplight to stoplight, my money would be on the Nova.

The only identification used for the 283 option (either motor - 2V = 195 HP) was the fender emblem below.






The 283 4V and 4 speed were available in any Chevy II model including the Station Wagon. 1964 was the first year Chevy installed a V8 and a 4 speed in a Nova. For both 1962 and 1963 it was a dealer install option. And you were not limited to a 283. Yep - you could have a 327/340 HP Corvette engine in your Chevy II if you wanted to.

Standard tires were 6.50x13 BSW except the SS model which came with 6.50x14 BSW tires which were an option on all other models, as were WSW tires, either size.
Hi Lee, that´s a great looking Nova. Do you know how many SS they
made in ´64. AFAIK GM introduced it late that model year. WOW never
heard or seen a ´62 or ´63 with "original" V8. But the brakes on those
early Novas leaves a lot to ask for Chris
spur is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2015, 06:49 PM   #7759  
Muscle Cars Forever!
Thread Starter
 
Lee Stewart's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Posts: 47,284
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by spur View Post
Hi Lee, that´s a great looking Nova. Do you know how many SS they
made in ´64. AFAIK GM introduced it late that model year. WOW never
heard or seen a ´62 or ´63 with "original" V8. But the brakes on those
early Novas leaves a lot to ask for Chris
Hi Chris

Chevy sold 10,576 Super Sport Novas in 1964. As you know, it was just a trim level option - no special engine attached to it.

It is interesting to note that the previous year, 1963, was the high water mark for the Nova SS - 42,432. The lowest sales year was 1968 (5,571) - the first year that Chevy made the Nova SS more than a trim level option by making standard the 350/295 HP engine.

The documentation would be the key to finding a dealer installed V8 into an early Nova. As far as ever seeing one? I haven't either nor was I able to find a photo of one. Chevy actually sold 2 kits that included a new block with a recessed oil filter that would allow either a 283 or 327 to be installed in a 1962/1963 Nova.




As far as the brakes on a Nova? YIKES! You could just about say that for an drum brake car of the 1960s but with the Nova, they were designed for a 6 CYL car riding on 13" tires.

Last edited by Lee Stewart; 06-01-2015 at 06:55 PM..
Lee Stewart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2015, 06:56 PM   #7760  
Muscle Cars Forever!
Thread Starter
 
Lee Stewart's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Posts: 47,284
Default


l







The numbers above aren't very impressive, but keep in mind that the 1/4 mile ET was affected by the 3.08 rear in the test car. If they had swapped in a 3.55 or 3.73, the ET would have been well below 14 seconds.

Last edited by Lee Stewart; 06-01-2015 at 07:05 PM..
Lee Stewart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2015, 07:33 PM   #7761  
Muscle Cars Forever!
Thread Starter
 
Lee Stewart's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Posts: 47,284
Default




Tasca Ford's first effort at building an A/FX racer; 1962 Fairlane with a 406 Tri-Power Galaxie engine in it. This car is credited as being the "father" of the 1964 Thunderbolt.

1962 was the first year for the FX class. It was based on cubic inch to weight ratio and there were three sub-classes: A/FX, B/FX and C/FX. The FX class was used for one off or very low production cars. It was a crowd favorite because the cars looked like what you could buy in your local dealership but were faster than either Stock or Super Stock. FX was the beginnings of the Match Races which drew huge crowds at local drag strips. It only took a couple of years before the cars no longer looked like showroom vehicles, first with the ABW (Altered Wheel Base) mod and finally to the fiberglass flip up bodies (1966) which became the Nitro Funny Cars of today.

The car that started the FX "wars" was this 1962 421 Super Duty powered Tempest built for Mickey Thompson and driven by Hayden Proffitt who won the FX class (then called FX/A but changed at the 1963 Indy Nationals) at the 1962 Winternationals - the inaugural event for the new class. Look at the wheels on this Tempest and the Tasca Fairlane. NHRA required the use of steel wheels only on 1962 FX cars. Tasca being the showman he was chromed his. Mag type wheels would be allowed in 1963.




Here is a photo of Proffitt qualifying his FX/A Tempest. Notice the Flag Man - it wouldn't be until 1964 that the "Christmas Tree" was used for starting the cars.




As you can see, the 421 SD fit very nicely into the Tempest's engine compartment:




The Pontiac Transaxle would not stand up to the high horspower of the 421 SD so it was scrapped and a Catalina rear (shortened) was installed instead:




1962 FX cars were really "home built" cars. None of the factories produced any. But that would change in 1963 . . .

Last edited by Lee Stewart; 06-01-2015 at 08:35 PM..
Lee Stewart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2015, 07:36 PM   #7762  
Muscle Cars Forever!
Thread Starter
 
Lee Stewart's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Posts: 47,284
Default




rbinck and 3K73 like this.
Lee Stewart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2015, 08:28 PM   #7763  
Muscle Cars Forever!
Thread Starter
 
Lee Stewart's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Posts: 47,284
Default

1962 Factory 421 SD Aluminum Long Tube Exhaust Headers




Strickly for drag racing. They are just another example of just how far the factories would go to remove weight from their Super Stock cars. OBTW - running your 421 SD at 70 MPH for 5 minutes would burn holes in them. Racers used lightweight tubular steel tube headers instead.
Lee Stewart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2015, 09:55 PM   #7764  
Muscle Cars Forever!
Thread Starter
 
Lee Stewart's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Posts: 47,284
Default

1970 440+6 Challenger R/T Convertible (1 of 38)




38 AT
61 MT

99 Total

Last edited by Lee Stewart; 06-01-2015 at 09:58 PM..
Lee Stewart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2015, 11:50 AM   #7765  
Muscle Cars Forever!
Thread Starter
 
Lee Stewart's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Posts: 47,284
Default

Did you know . . .

The 1964 Chevy 409/425 HP engine would be the last Chevy engine to have dual quads. Starting in 1967, Chevy went Tri-Power for the L71 427 Corvette.





Pontiac's last year for dual quads was 1963 on the 421 SD engine. Beginning in 1964 Pontiac went to 3x2 for the 389 and 421 H.O. Olds never used dual quads but Buick did on their 425 Super Wildcat engine - 1965 was the last year.

Last edited by Lee Stewart; 08-02-2019 at 07:19 AM..
Lee Stewart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2015, 12:08 PM   #7766  
Muscle Cars Forever!
Thread Starter
 
Lee Stewart's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Posts: 47,284
Default

Did you know . . .

In 1965, Buick dealers offered a dual quad option for the Skylark GS 401 "Nailhead" engine.






Lee Stewart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2015, 12:27 PM   #7767  
Muscle Cars Forever!
Thread Starter
 
Lee Stewart's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Posts: 47,284
Default

1966 AMX Prototype





3K73 likes this.
Lee Stewart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2015, 12:55 PM   #7768  
Muscle Cars Forever!
Thread Starter
 
Lee Stewart's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Posts: 47,284
Default

1971 Challenger with V6J: Lime Green Stripes






Finally found a photo of one!

V6J stripes were only available on Green Go or Black 1971 Challengers

Last edited by Lee Stewart; 06-02-2015 at 01:06 PM..
Lee Stewart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2015, 12:59 PM   #7769  
Muscle Cars Forever!
Thread Starter
 
Lee Stewart's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Posts: 47,284
Default

Did you know . . .

In 1971, Dodge was planning on offering 15" Cast Aluminum Wheels:





The option was cancelled but Dodge did put a set on their 1970 Diamante Show Car:



Last edited by Lee Stewart; 08-02-2019 at 07:20 AM..
Lee Stewart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2015, 01:33 PM   #7770  
Muscle Cars Forever!
Thread Starter
 
Lee Stewart's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Posts: 47,284
Default



Last edited by Lee Stewart; 08-02-2019 at 07:21 AM..
Lee Stewart is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Go Back   High Def Forum - Your High Definition Community & High Definition Resource >
AddThis Social Bookmark Button
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:56 PM.



Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2018, MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands