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Old 02-03-2015, 10:57 PM   #7066  
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Hey Fellahs! Saw your post and pics about the '70 Eliminator and had to jump on board and comment...

The '69/'70 Cougar Eliminators had the 351-4V as the base engine, and could also be ordered with the Boss 302 and 428CJ (as well as the 390-4V in '69 only). So the lack of engine call outs could potentially lead to an embarassing situation!

One thing to note is that some cars have been found to have engine call out decals on the fender behind the front wheel. The decals have a Ford part number, which leads many to believe they may have been a dealer add-on, which explains why they didn't appear on all cars.

Some other interesting notes about the Eliminator in your pics in post #7135 (as a newbie I'm not allowed to post links yet)...

The top pic is a competition orange 1970 Eliminator. The bottom picture is not of the same car ~ note the white fenders.
The orange Eliminator has the Drag-Pak option (see the oil cooler and horns relocated to the passenger side). It could be a non-ram-air 428SCJ, or it could be a super drag-pak Boss 302.

They built 127 super cobra-jet Eliminators in 1970, but only 15 were built without the ram-air option.
They built 58 super drag-pak Boss 302 Eliminators in 1970. Boss cats only got an oil cooler when 4.30 gears were ordered, whereas Cobra Jet cars got an oil cooler with 3.91's or 4.30's.
Either way, a pretty rare cat!

On a related note, at Mecum Kissimmee just a few weeks ago a competition blue super drag pak boss 302 eliminator sold for $195k.

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1970 Boss 302 Cougar Eliminator

It is interesting to note that at the height of the Muscle Car Era - this car has no engine callout emblems anywhere on it. You would only know it's a Boss 302 by lifting the hood.

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1970 Cougar Eliminator (Competition Gold / Black Decor Interior)
1 of 70 with 428SCJ, Ram Air, 4-speed.
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Old 02-04-2015, 10:00 AM   #7067  
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Hey Fellahs! Saw your post and pics about the '70 Eliminator and had to jump on board and comment...

The '69/'70 Cougar Eliminators had the 351-4V as the base engine, and could also be ordered with the Boss 302 and 428CJ (as well as the 390-4V in '69 only). So the lack of engine call outs could potentially lead to an embarassing situation!

One thing to note is that some cars have been found to have engine call out decals on the fender behind the front wheel. The decals have a Ford part number, which leads many to believe they may have been a dealer add-on, which explains why they didn't appear on all cars.

Some other interesting notes about the Eliminator in your pics in post #7135 (as a newbie I'm not allowed to post links yet)...

The top pic is a competition orange 1970 Eliminator. The bottom picture is not of the same car ~ note the white fenders.
The orange Eliminator has the Drag-Pak option (see the oil cooler and horns relocated to the passenger side). It could be a non-ram-air 428SCJ, or it could be a super drag-pak Boss 302.

They built 127 super cobra-jet Eliminators in 1970, but only 15 were built without the ram-air option.
They built 58 super drag-pak Boss 302 Eliminators in 1970. Boss cats only got an oil cooler when 4.30 gears were ordered, whereas Cobra Jet cars got an oil cooler with 3.91's or 4.30's.
Either way, a pretty rare cat!

On a related note, at Mecum Kissimmee just a few weeks ago a competition blue super drag pak boss 302 eliminator sold for $195k.

Have a great day!





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1 of 354 in Sonic Blue

1970 Cougar Eliminator (Competition Gold / Black Decor Interior)
1 of 70 with 428SCJ, Ram Air, 4-speed.
Hi Mike

Welcome to HDF! Thanks for all that info. Greatly appreciated.

From my own experience, I have seen photos of the 428 CJ with the fender decal, but never any engine callout decals/emblems for the 351 or the Boss 302.
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Old 02-06-2015, 03:33 PM   #7071  
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Muscle Car Milestones

Let me preface this list as my own thoughts and opinions which may differ from anyone viewing this. I invite comments to it. This list does not include factory built race cars or one offs.

1962: Chevrolet introduces the 409/409hp Impala SS - the first car to have a "muscle car" moniker; Super Sport

1963: Ford introduces (mid year) the 427/425hp dual quad engine option

1964: Pontiac introduces the GTO which defines what a Muscle Car is; an intermediate car with a big engine with lots of emblems, badges and a hood treatment. Also Ford introduces the Mustang which opens up a whole new class of cars; Pony Cars.

1965: Ford makes available to the Mustang, front disc brakes. Chevrolet introduces their L78 396/425hp big block engine.

1966: Pontiac sells 96,946 GTOs, a high water mark for the sale of a single brand Muscle Car. Chrysler introduces the 426 Street Hemi. Chevy introduces the Camaro (September)

1967: The Fed makes it mandatory that all cars have a dual master cylinder braking system.

1968: Plymouth redefines the Muscle Car with the introduction of the Road Runner - a Muscle Car for less than $3000.

1969: Chevrolet dealers, lead by Yenko Chevrolet, use the COPO ordering system to bypass the GM edict of no engines greater than 400 CI in intermediate or pony cars. Over 1300 are built (Chevelles and Camaros). Chrysler introduces their A12 Road Runner and Super Bee. A true purpose built Muscle Car to be sold by the thousands.

1970: GM allows all divisions to install larger than 400 CI engines in intermediate and pony cars. Chevrolet introduces the highest horsepower rated engine; the 454/450hp LS6. Chrysler introduces the Challenger R/T and the 'Cuda.

1971: The Fed tightens up emissions which causes the loss of the high compression Muscle Car engine. Hosepower rating are down across all brands.

1972: The Muscle Car Era draws to a close due to high insurance premiums and the rising cost of gasoline.

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1968 Road Runner - Zero Options (1 of 13)

As I was looking back in this thread, this post caught my eye. It didn't register when I first posted it. Plymouth made 45,303 1968 Road Runners. Only 13 of them were made with no options at all.

Plymouth at the time, made a big deal about how you could buy a 1968 Road Runner for less than $3000 . . . yet very few of them actually had a MSRP of $2999 or less. The MSRP of a stripped Sport Coupe was $2896.
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