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Old 01-23-2010, 12:22 AM   #1  
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Four-lane racing to be showcased during inaugural NHRA Four-Wide Nationals at zMax Dragway

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For the first time in NHRA national event history, qualifying and eliminations for Top Fuel, Funny Car, Pro Stock, and Pro Stock Motorcycle at an NHRA Full Throttle Drag Racing Series event will be conducted four-wide instead of two, NHRA officials announced today.
http://www.nhra.com/story/2010/1/21/...-zmax-dragway/

Full Throttle racers excited about four-wide racing

http://www.nhra.com/story/2010/1/21/...r-wide-racing/
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Four-lane racing to be showcased during inaugural NHRA Four-Wide Nationals at zMax Dragway



http://www.nhra.com/story/2010/1/21/...-zmax-dragway/

Full Throttle racers excited about four-wide racing

http://www.nhra.com/story/2010/1/21/...r-wide-racing/
From what I've seen I'd prefer to see 3 individual races vs. the one.

As a novelty however it's pretty cool.
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Just sounds silly to me. I didn't know there were that many teams that you needed an even faster process. Sounds like there will be much more waiting around for the spectators. It's not like top fuel cars are going to be able to do more runs or race more often so you're basically left with fewer runs to watch. And are you really going to be able to get into 4 cars racing a total 4 seconds?

What's next, putting the full field on an oval track and racing?
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Just sounds silly to me. I didn't know there were that many teams that you needed an even faster process. Sounds like there will be much more waiting around for the spectators. It's not like top fuel cars are going to be able to do more runs or race more often so you're basically left with fewer runs to watch. And are you really going to be able to get into 4 cars racing a total 4 seconds?

What's next, putting the full field on an oval track and racing?
There are 16 cars per class on race day. That number can double in classes like Pro Stock and Pro Motorcycle during qualifying.

What it will do is shorten the time it takes to qualify and to race. I see nothing wrong with that.

And having over 30,000 Nitro derived HP powered vechiles racing at once . . . I can't imagine how loud that can be. As it is, 2 Nitro powered cars is considered the 2nd loudest man made sound on Earth only second to the shuttle/rockets launching
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What it will do is shorten the time it takes to qualify and to race.
That's what I was thinking. That may be OK for TV but what about the spectators? When the races only last a few seconds you want to see more of them, not less. At least I would think. I've never been to a live NHRA event to see how they move through the classes.
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That's what I was thinking. That may be OK for TV but what about the spectators? When the races only last a few seconds you want to see more of them, not less. At least I would think. I've never been to a live NHRA event to see how they move through the classes.
NHRA fans want to see racing and 4 wide is unique. It opens up a whole host of challanges. As you know (?) getting a red light (you left too soon) in a 2 car race automatically gives the win to the other car. With 4 cars - you still have to beat the other 3.

Understand that there is only one 4 wide NHRA race track in the country. So it isn't going to become SOP.

Noye: some race tracks have a curfew due to their close location to residential areas. Finishing the race earlier can be a benefit if it was carried out to other tracks - which I sincerely doubt because you can't really make a 2 lane track into 4 lane track.
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Did you watch any of this Lee?
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Did you watch any of this Lee?
I recorded the qualifying sessions last night. Will watch it in about an hour. I will watch the Finals later today.
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I watched a little last night during breaks in the basketball. Running 4 top fuel cars at a time sure gives you a better chance of seeing 2 cars explode at a time.
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I watched a little last night during breaks in the basketball. Running 4 top fuel cars at a time sure gives you a better chance of seeing 2 cars explode at a time.


I have been going to the track since 1969. It is so foreign to see 4 cars race at once.

Like watching a NASCAR race with everyone going in the opposite direction.

It is probably better appreciated "being there" then watching it on TV. Well that's true of any national event drag race.

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Cripes! I haven't been to the track since 2002.
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I just watched the qualifying . . .

I don't like it. It's just too busy and confusing. It was sorta cool when 2 Funny cars blew up in the same race.

I truly believe it will be MUCH better in person.

Instead of just 2 graphics, there are now 4 - driver and ET.

The race just started 20 minutes ago, I am recording ti so I can blow through the ads.

It really must be hell for the drivers themselves. You now have to beat 3 other cars instead of just the car in the other lane in the last round and and 2 extra cars in the other two rounds.

LOL - in the last race - the final - they now decide winner, runner up, semi-final winner and semi-final runner up. Down from 4 racing sesions to 3.

Glad that it's only one race per year (I think).
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That was my concern earlier in this thread. The races are so short it's just hard to keep up with 4 cars. And you get fewer runs to watch. The graphics did suck but you'd probably get use to them. People 20 years ago would turn on Fox Business and be like WTF is going on.
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That was my concern earlier in this thread. The races are so short it's just hard to keep up with 4 cars. And you get fewer runs to watch. The graphics did suck but you'd probably get use to them. People 20 years ago would turn on Fox Business and be like WTF is going on.
I used to race at the strip and yes - I did some street racing also.

It was ALWAYS one on one. Me and my machine against him and his machine. I think it's been that way ever since the first drag race happened decades ago.

Maybe it's different up in the Pro categories where you don't race the other guy, you race yourself the the track itself.

As someone once said and boy were they right . . .

"It's 2 hours (now 1) of running around like a chicken with it's head cut off than 10 seconds of pure adrenaline rush, or terror if things don't go well, then back to the 2 hours . . ."

When I was racing, the Nitro cars were doing ET's that the Pro Stock cars did 3 years ago.

personally, I am not happy with the changes that have been made to drag racing, though of course I do understand why they have been made:

1. Nitro cars race to 1000 feet - pure safety issue

2. Now a track with 4 wide - more of a show for the fans than a true National Event.

I remember a special purse ($100K??) race/challange where a Funny car would race a Top Fuel Dragster. 8 of each for a 16 car field. Except they staggered the tree to give the FC a slight advantage. I would have been much better to see them do a side by side launch then either a add or subtract a time factor for the difference in the classes. Only happened once. I didn't like that either.

Maybe if they reswtricted the 4 wide to below Pro Stock it would be better. They don't run as fast. Stock and Super stck would be great classes for 4 wide. ESPECIALLY SS with the way they launch - front wheels high in the air.
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In an NHRA event. Do the upper classes(Top Fuel etc) get paid by their finishes or by appearance fees like monster trucks. I've been out of the drag racing stuff for a long time. I already have the DVR set to record tomorrow to see what happens in these 4 wide finals.
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In an NHRA event. Do the upper classes(Top Fuel etc) get paid by their finishes or by appearance fees like monster trucks. I've been out of the drag racing stuff for a long time. I already have the DVR set to record tomorrow to see what happens in these 4 wide finals.
AFAIK in the Nitro classes, everyone walks away with something that races. Obviously the winner walks with the big money. You don't qualify, you get nothing.

Appearance fees are associated with match racing.

I will watch the finals tomorrow and probably turn it off after about 20 minutes.

When they did it as an exhibition, I thought it was cool because it was so unique and having been to the track and knowing the viseral feeling of 2 Top Fuelers launching and racing, the thought of 4 just blew my mind.

But when it became racing and not exhibition, then it became just too much outside the norm for me. I just can't let go of 40 years of drag racing. Not racing to 1/4 mile was bad enough, but I understand something had to be done. The sport was losing one driver per year. The last driver killed was Scott Kalaita at Englishtown in June 2008. Connie "The Bounty Hunter" Kalaita is his father

And the worst part is they probably sold out the track for the event. Which shows the promoters and NHRA that the fans want it. Of course! The 2nd loudest man made sound on earth just got louder. 160 Db for 2 TF's. 163 for 4? The Space Shuttle launching is the loudest at 180 Db. Remember for every 3 Db increase, the sound level doubles.

How many NASCAR race cars start in a race? 46? Each car has approx 800 HP. 4 Top Fuel dragsters sitting on the line ready to race at Zmax - that's 32,000 HP = to 40 of the 46 total NASCAR cars.

You live near Gainesville hatt?

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