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Old 10-15-2010, 05:27 PM   #61  
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I wonder if that new 6.7 Powerstroke will be able to make it past the shop. New diesels are too complicated for me. Just no way to make it 200K miles without a bunch of costly visits to the shop.
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I wonder if that new 6.7 Powerstroke will be able to make it past the shop. New diesels are too complicated for me. Just no way to make it 200K miles without a bunch of costly visits to the shop.
This new Powerstroke is the first Powerstroke that has been completely engineered and manufactured by Ford. I remember I read a press release a while back that Ford engineered these new Powerstrokes to achieve a service life of at least 150k miles. That is actually nothing new as Ford has started aiming for a service life of at least 150k miles for every component in a car starting around the time Alan Mulally took over.

It sounds like these new Powerstrokes are very heavy duty, but time will tell as it makes me nervous reading that they produce 800lb-ft of [email protected] rpms straight from the factory. That thing has got to be running some major boost. These new Powerstrokes should be much more reliable than the last 2 generations which did not do well, which is what prompted Ford to completely engineer and make their own Powerstroke this time around instead of waiting for Navistar.
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This new Powerstroke is the first Powerstroke that has been completely engineered and manufactured by Ford. I remember I read a press release a while back that Ford engineered these new Powerstrokes to achieve a service life of at least 150k miles. That is actually nothing new as Ford has started aiming for a service life of at least 150k miles for every component in a car starting around the time Alan Mulally took over.

It sounds like these new Powerstrokes are very heavy duty, but time will tell as it makes me nervous reading that they produce 800lb-ft of [email protected] rpms straight from the factory. That thing has got to be running some major boost. These new Powerstrokes should be much more reliable than the last 2 generations which did not do well, which is what prompted Ford to completely engineer and make their own Powerstroke this time around instead of waiting for Navistar.
My daughter had a Navistar 6.0 - thank God Ford is now making their own!
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I had a 6.0 too. Ran good but did like to be in the shop.

At some point this light duty diesel race has to end. If you need that much truck you need an F-650 with a Cummins or Cat and stop fooling around. And a real transmission.

Engine built to the limits, light duty transmission/transfer case pushed to the limits. Not a good recipe IMO. I guess they are cashing in all the people using a 1 ton to do the job of a 1/2 ton truck or SUV.
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I had a 6.0 too. Ran good but did like to be in the shop.

At some point this light duty diesel race has to end. If you need that much truck you need an F-650 with a Cummins or Cat and stop fooling around. And a real transmission.

Engine built to the limits, light duty transmission/transfer case pushed to the limits. Not a good recipe IMO. I guess they are cashing in all the people using a 1 ton to do the job of a 1/2 ton truck or SUV.
Whenever I see a Ford Superduty with the Powerstroke diesel, 95% of the time I see them hauling nothing and just driving somewhere. I think you are right because pick up trucks are still a status symbol, especially in certain parts of the US. Whenever I visit a friend of the family that lives out on the Preble County line in, everyone single person in that neighborhood is driving a gigantic pickup truck even though it doesn't look like they have use for it.

The other thing Ford's marketing department is aiming for with the latest Superduty, are people who really do need a heavy duty truck. This truck is supposed to be over engineered, although time will tell. They are aiming for people who need a REAL truck but want to get decent fuel efficiency. Ford put up some videos a while back that showed that their testing puts the 2011 Powerstrokes as getting superior fuel economy compared to the Dudge and Government Motors heavy duty pickups.
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The other thing Ford's marketing department is aiming for with the latest Superduty, are people who really do need a heavy duty truck.
Those people need to buy an F-650. I needed a heavier duty truck to but had an F-350. Always had to worry about my load. With a 650 I'd of never had a concern.
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Those people need to buy an F-650. I needed a heavier duty truck to but had an F-350. Always had to worry about my load. With a 650 I'd of never had a concern.
Yeah, but an F650 isn't exactly practical for many people who need a heavy duty truck. I think Ford is realizing that diesel prices will continue to trend upward in the future, which means that they are going to need to provide a truck that can come reasonably close to doing the job of an F650, but get twice the fuel economy.
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Old 12-02-2010, 09:50 PM   #68  
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For those who havn't heard how the new Mustang's V6 sounds, here is a clip that C&D mag did for their name that exhaust note game.

I have to admit that this is just incredible. This is unbelievably racy and you wouldn't expect such a racey sounding V6 in a Mustang. After all, the prevous 4.0 litre SOHC V6 used in the older Mustangs from Cologne was a pig.

http://blog.caranddriver.com/name-th...te-episode-67/
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A v6 mustang that doesn't sound flatulent, now that's a change I like
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These new V6's are incredibly badass. If you look in the comments section, almost half the people guessed that it was either a Nissan VQ V6 or a exotic V10. You know it is badass when it goes 0-60 in the same amount of time the previous generation GT V8's did it in. On top of that, it gets upto 31mpg!
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I just can't get into that noise coming from 6ers.
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I just can't get into that noise coming from 6ers.
You may have to start getting used to it as v8's are definately on their way out. If the twin turbo v6 that is optional in the new 2011 F150's turn out to be popular, you can bet it will move in that direction. The fact that Ford can make 420lb-ft of torque from that Ecoboost 3.5 litre is going to make people think twice about whether they really want a v8 or not. For those who really want a v8, Ford has them covered too as they will have an optional Mustang GT V8 as the 5.0 is an optional engine.
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You may have to start getting used to it as v8's are definately on their way out. If the twin turbo v6 that is optional in the new 2011 F150's turn out to be popular, you can bet it will move in that direction. The fact that Ford can make 420lb-ft of torque from that Ecoboost 3.5 litre is going to make people think twice about whether they really want a v8 or not. For those who really want a v8, Ford has them covered too as they will have an optional Mustang GT V8 as the 5.0 is an optional engine.
Is a twin turbo v6 a cheaper option than a v8? I think the v8 is safe for a while.
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Is a twin turbo v6 a cheaper option than a v8? I think the v8 is safe for a while.
The V6 is a significantly more expensive option than the 5.0 or 6.2 litre v8, but that is due to the complexities of all of the extra plumbing that is required with twin turbo systems. However it is likely going to move in that direction as all the automakers are going to need to do what they can to try to meet the upcoming CAFE regulations. I think Ford is testing the waters here to see whether a twin turbo would be popular or not in a truck. If the official fuel economy numbers end up being as impressive as people are speculating, then it may indeed be popular. After all, 420lb-ft of torque from just a little off idle is incredible.
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You have any F150 mpg numbers on the 3.5? I can't find any.

If this turns out to be a popular options you can guarantee the v8 version will be out soon and be more powerful and get better economy.
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