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Old 08-05-2009, 08:25 AM   #16
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Are these problems not going away anytime soon, or is there just more reporting of issues because of increased sales of BD players? One has to wonder.
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Old 08-05-2009, 04:07 PM   #17
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Are these problems not going away anytime soon, or is there just more reporting of issues because of increased sales of BD players? One has to wonder.
It is likely both.

These problems DO exist and it will hurt adoption from what it could be otherwise IMO.

There are other issues that are a PITA also like some studios forcing you to watch the trailers every time you load the disc and no auto resume on all BD-Java loaded titles so when you have these two issues combined it becomes a "ROYAL" PITA.

I still try to watch anything in BD because I love the PQ/SQ improvements, but as time goes on these issues are starting to bother me more and more, so I basically only rent BDs so far this year.
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Old 08-05-2009, 05:25 PM   #18
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Yes, it seems we gave up things to get the 'best' resolution on disk. And not getting anything back anytime soon.
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Old 08-06-2009, 06:39 PM   #19
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I hear your frustration and share it whenever these playback compatibilities come up when the family tries to watch a movie on certain discs. Despite having players from a mfg (Panasonic & Sony) that have the best track record for proactively having updates available BEFORE the disc is released it STILL delays watching movies on these troublesome BD titles and causes my family to scatter for other things to do while I try to find the latest update and then get it installed before everyone losses complete interest (or it gets too late to start the movie). This is NOt what watching a movie should include just to get the better PQ/SQ on BD that I love.

With the bandwidth caps becoming the "norm" I do not think that HD streaming is going to fly far in the short term IMO. Then there is the cost being 2-3x what renting a BD from Netflix costs as the other part of the issue, along with the lower (much lower IMO) PQ/SQ too. Maybe in 5-10 years when those issues get sorted out it CAN replace BD and then I would be all for it at this point in my frustration with BD not being ready for prime time for the average consumer with these BD-Java incompatibilities.
Excellent post Daleb, well done!
Boy did you nail it PFC5, there would be serious bandwidth (bandwidth caps) issues especially if the masses started down that path of downloading their movies! I believe by the time downloaded movies looked as good as a Blu-ray the issues that drive owners of BD players mad would be at an end. I seriously doubt that Hollywood and the studios would allow this BD-Java incompatibilities to derail the Blu-Ray format. PFC5 makes a great point that studios, chip makers and manufacturers need to be more proactive when it comes to BD-Java incompatibilities.
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Thanks!

It appears that they need to decide on ONE version of Java to base the encoding on, as there does not seem to be this one version of JAVA used by all parties. That would be the first step to solving the incompatibilities with BD-Java IMO. The next step is to freeze the Java version as well as differing encoding methods used, soon like they did with SD DVD so there will not be continued compatibilities issues.

That would only leave the dynamic DRM that needs a solution that keeps the studios & BD player mfg both happy. Some kind of universal DRM update system is what is needed so that regardless of the player the update is the same so that one update can be put on the BD movie disc it is first used on and will work with ALL BD players. Then the studios who are the ones who require the dynamic DRM will be responsible for the cost of updating all BD players.

Do we really expect these BD player mfg to keep providing updates 5-10 years later for the hundreds/thousands of brands/models that will be out by then? I sure hope so but it will be a daunting task and likely end up costing more than the cost of the BD players in another year or so, and they need a plan to handle it.

Heck I still have my first SD DVD player being used in my younger daughter's room that is 10 years old and it plays all SD DVD movies still. Will we be able to say that with BD players?
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I've been purchasing alot of Blu-Rays lately, and my Panasonic BD35 has played them all perfectly...except one, a couple of nights ago. I put in Inglorious Basterds and everything went ok until the main menu. When I hit play it went into this loop you couldn't get out of. I started thinking firmware issues and loaded it into my PS3, and it worked fine. I think I had version 1.6 and now it's 2 point something.
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That sounds like what would happen when a firmware update is needed. You likely HAD to update the PS3 previously as they usually require it to play online with the PS3. I know the 3.0 update was required for the PS3.

So did the movie finally play in the BD35 after the firmware update?
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Old 05-29-2011, 07:40 AM   #23
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I just purchased online the sothink media's HD Movie maker software from SourceTec software and its by far the most easiest way to burn HD videos to AVCHD on dvd discs. But i found out after burning, it won't play on my PHILIPS BDP-3100 blu ray player. So i ran to the nearest electronics store and tried it on a Samsung blu ray player and gladly ot played with no problems at all. The Philips BDP-3100 blu ray player says it can play avcHD, anyone can help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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I just purchased online the sothink media's HD Movie maker software from SourceTec software and its by far the most easiest way to burn HD videos to AVCHD on dvd discs. But i found out after burning, it won't play on my PHILIPS BDP-3100 blu ray player. So i ran to the nearest electronics store and tried it on a Samsung blu ray player and gladly ot played with no problems at all. The Philips BDP-3100 blu ray player says it can play avcHD, anyone can help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Instead of using that problematic Sothink software try multiAVCHD. It is free and allows you much greater flexibility. The discs work on every player I have tried it on (dozens).
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I have owned one home blu-ray player in my life: an LG BD530.
Never again!
Despite keeping the firmware updated ...
the damned thing sounded like it was eating rocks every time I put a blu-ray movie in, whirled around for a minute or two before successfully (most times, NOT all) starting a disc and finally, burnt-out after only two months of use.
I have ported from my computer with a blu-ray drive to play directly to my LCD TV. [Technically, that is an over-simplification. Ask me for details if interested.]
I will never own a home blu-ray player again.
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I have owned one home blu-ray player in my life: an LG BD530.
Never again!
Despite keeping the firmware updated ...
the damned thing sounded like it was eating rocks every time I put a blu-ray movie in, whirled around for a minute or two before successfully (most times, NOT all) starting a disc and finally, burnt-out after only two months of use.
I have ported from my computer with a blu-ray drive to play directly to my LCD TV. [Technically, that is an over-simplification. Ask me for details if interested.]
I will never own a home blu-ray player again.
I have a BD 550 and never had a problem. Sorry to hear you got a bad one. Well tonight the old A-3 will get some use as I have quite a few unopened HD-DVDs.
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Same with me, never had any issues so far ... Honestly it made me think that it is almost perfect, crystal clear image, long life span and cool gadget, all in one! Pretty sweet combination I tell ya!
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I wonder if any of the above posters have moved up to the new stage of disc players 4K players and what are their thoughts on this latest step up are ?
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