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Old 10-31-2008, 09:09 AM   #1
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Out of curiosity, have there been movies on Blu Ray that incorporate this technology? I have a Panasonic TH-50PZ80 and have my eye on the Panasonic BDK55 player, so I should be good to go, just wondering if this is something that depends on the who encodes a particular movie or if they will all have it embedded.
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Old 10-31-2008, 10:31 PM   #2
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Deep Color is basically BS marketing at this stage. Neither HD DVD nor BD have ANYTHING in the specs to allow Deep Color encoding so they cannot benefit from this tech. When a device (either displays or players) says it supports Deep Color, all it is saying is that the HDMI connection supports it. At this point, no consumer displays currently can even display Deep Color, and they ALSO are only saying that the HDMI connection can handle it which means that the HDMI version is 1.3.

Again at this point it is just marketing BS and IMO, VERY misleading to not state that it is only the connection that can handle it, but the receiving device itself cannot do anything with a Deep Color source if one existed.
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Deep Color is basically BS marketing at this stage. Neither HD DVD nor BD have ANYTHING in the specs to allow Deep Color encoding so they cannot benefit from this tech. When a device (either displays or players) says it supports Deep Color, all it is saying is that the HDMI connection supports it. At this point, no consumer displays currently can even display Deep Color, and they ALSO are only saying that the HDMI connection can handle it which means that the HDMI version is 1.3.

Again at this point it is just marketing BS and IMO, VERY misleading to not state that it is only the connection that can handle it, but the receiving device itself cannot do anything with a Deep Color source if one existed.
Amen. I wonder if there are even any plans to have Deep Color HDTVs produced in the near future?
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It's great to buy TVs or anything else with greater and greater capabilities. That means you're that much more future proof. And in a few years, x.v.Color and Deep Color might be all the rage.

Other than perhaps a few camcorders, there aren't any broadcast or consumer HD sources that support x.v.Color or Deep Color. For your new TV to take advantage of either one, the source must either be captured using x.v.Color or Deep Color, or transferred from film using x.v.Color or Deep Color.

Everything coming out on Blu-ray Disc and HD DVD, does not conform. Nor does any HD broadcast currently. In both cases increased bit depths would also take up a significantly larger amount of disc capacity. Talking with industry reps, it's believed that these new "standards" will first come to our TVs through gaming, if that's your thing.
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Old 11-02-2008, 03:21 PM   #6
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To be fair, there are some high-end displays that support 10-bit color per component (30-bit color). While not full Deep Color, they are still better than 8-bit per component (24-bit color) and though there may not be any sources of true Deep Color, devices that interpolate colors can make use of the extra bits to reduce color banding. The colors won't be "real", but it will still look better.
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I have an Epson home cinema 1080 with deep color and I just purchased the Panasonic BD-55 blu-ray player. When I had my HD dish hooked to my Epson the deep color section on the menu was greyed out and hence meant no deep color signal. When I hooked up my new Blu-ray player and started playing "The Perfect Storm" the deep color displayed active and listed 12-bit on the projector menu, this was always greyed out before. 12-bit would translate to 36 bit correct?

What do I make of this??
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I would say not much to think of it. Maybe your display upsamples the color to 12 bit, but the source material is only 8 bit as per the BD spec.
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You're probably right but wouldn't it say the same thing when the HD satellite is on if it were upsampling? They are both coming through the HDMI port but only the blu-ray player makes the deep color activate.
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You're probably right but wouldn't it say the same thing when the HD satellite is on if it were upsampling? They are both coming through the HDMI port but only the blu-ray player makes the deep color activate.
Well in this case it could be that the BD player is doing the upsampling but it would be from the 8 bit on the BD disc still. Or it could be that the display only does it with 1080p signals. Who knows for sure, but we do know that ALL BD titles are only 8 bit, as that is limited by the format's own specs.

Right now, Deep Color is purely marketing BS, and how the displays and BD players can get away with stating DC support is that the HDMI connection supports it despite there being no consumer level displays, media, nor hardware that can actually use it.
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There are flags in the data stream that tell the HDMI receiver whether Deep Color is being used. From the HDMI receiver's point of view, any color data field more than 8-bits is Deep Color. The receiver doesn't care if the extra bits are real data, or if they are interpolated up from 8-bit data or if they are all zero--as far as the receiver knows, it's a Deep Color signal.
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Hummm great info here, thanks guys.
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