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New Home Theater System - Suggestions?

Vany7777
07-13-2005, 01:35 PM
After carefully examining the line-up of games showcased at this year's E3, I have finally decided that I am going to purchase the Xbox 360 (I hate that name :mad: ). It's been a few years since I've really been "into" console gaming, and I don't plan on half-assing my jump back into the market. To that end I've been trying to put together a rudimentary, HD-capable home theatre system for myself. However, I live under the constraints of a college budget, so prohibitively expensive gear just simply isn't an option for me. Nonetheless, I've been shopping around and I've seen quite a few competitively-priced pieces of equipment that have caught my eye.

First, I shopped for televisions. I've finally narrowed down my options to four direct view, flat-tube TV's. Three of the four come with integrated HD-tuners. The addition of a tuner is a fairly important point in my mind, and the Toshiba only makes the cut because of the rave reviews I've heard about it and the fact that it features 2 HDMI inputs.

However, after viewing nearly all of them (I haven't seen the Toshiba in action) I am still unable to decide which one I like the best. They are all just so good, and none seems to be able to claim a definitive advantage over another. To my eye, the Samsung seems the be the sharpest one of the lot, and I love how it offers the convieniently slim form-factor. But, before I take any substantive steps in the direction of a purchase, I would like hear the thoughts of this forum.

Here's links to all four sets:

1. Sony FD Trinitron WEGA 30" KD30XS955: http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=eNreBbhtdX7eLfrYhHrUDvdjHX3ExaCx8ws=?Pro ductSKU=KD30XS955&Dept=tvvideo&CategoryName=tv_hdtv_tube

2. Samsung Wide SlimFit 30" TX-R3079WH: http://product.samsung.com/cgi-bin/nabc/product/b2c_product_detail.jsp?eUser=&prod_id=TXR3079WHX%2fXAA

3. LG 30" Direct View 30FZ4D: http://us.lge.com/Product/proddetail.do?actCategory=tv&archivedYn=&actType=search&categoryId=1000000089&prodId=1000000496&parentId=0000000001&parent2levelId=0000000001&category_level=3&totalItem=1&currentPage=1&perPage=10

4. Toshiba HFX34 30'' Cinema Series: http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/televisions/product.asp?model=30hfx84

That's all for now. Fire away! Thanks. :D

PS: Once again, cost is an issue. If any of you are aware of a vendor I could get a great deal from, please let me know in this thread!

Mrkazador
07-13-2005, 03:05 PM
I myself have the 30xs955 and the picture is beautiful with the superfine pitch. I havent had any problems with it and the qam tuner works great.

From what i read, sony's superfine pitch makes it all that much a better crt but they are a tad more expensive. You get what you pay for.

TheQuietWoman
07-13-2005, 04:38 PM
I myself have the 30xs955 and the picture is beautiful with the superfine pitch. I havent had any problems with it and the qam tuner works great.

From what i read, sony's superfine pitch makes it all that much a better crt but they are a tad more expensive. You get what you pay for.

And that's the great thing about this site, everyone has a different view and we all see things differently...
Iwas going to say (and indeed I still am), I would be picking between the Tosh and the Samsung.
I personally believe (and I say this with a reasonable amount of inside knowledge) that Toshiba's video processing technology in particular is consistently superior to most other manufacturers.
It is very much their forte and they consistently rate at the top of the many catergories of visual display from CRT, through CRT/DLP rear pro to projectors.
Secondly, for mine Samsung is the brand that if it hasn't already is going to be giving more than a few "established' brands nightmares.
Down here they're just doing that with their plasma displays, I looked at the 32" Slimfit yesterday, first sound I uttered was "wow"!
And by the way, I don't doubt your comments and the enjoyment you're getting from your Sony, can't comment really, haven't seen it.
Cheers

Vany7777
07-19-2005, 03:10 AM
Thanks for the comments guys. Does anybody have anything else to add?

Blue_Tech
07-19-2005, 04:08 AM
The XS955 is a damn fine tube. The only one better Sony offers is the Sony XBR (http://www.crutchfield.com/S-kxDK0CrqTVm/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=148350&I=158KD34XBR). Both the XS and the XBR are equipped with the Super Fine Pitch grill. The HS model is cheaper yet, but is not equipped with a few extras.

Personally, I can never say enough good things about Sony CRT's. Having owned a 34" XBR for four years, I can tell you this... It still draws compliments from company even when displaying SD content, let alone DVD's or HD.

RSawdey
07-20-2005, 07:01 PM
Interlaced 30 fps CRTs aren't the best display for gaming. You should consider 720p/60 flat panel LCDs in similar sizes, similar costs.

Vany7777
07-27-2005, 12:06 PM
I checked out what you said, and your information in incorrect RSawdey. CRT TV's are more than capable of displaying 60 FPS. Interlaced simply means you get half the resolution (since every other line of the screen is drawn each frame - all 60 frames). And the visual artifacts that tend to crop up in games when using interlacing as opposed to progressive scan are scarcely even going to be noticeable since the scan lines are so tightly compacted on a 30'' TV running at 1080i. My only real concern is the extent to which game developers support 1080i as a format for the Xbox 360. Fortunately, I'm willing to bet that they will.

That said, I have another question. There isn't any difference between the picture quality of the Sony KV-30HS420 and the KD-30XS955 is there? The only difference is the built-in tuner and the optical port, correct?

rbinck
07-27-2005, 12:43 PM
You are getting your frames and fields confused Vany. With standard NTSC interlaced video there are 60 fields per second which combine (interlace) to create 30 Fields per second. In other words an Interlaced field consists of two frames. RSawdey was using FPS to mean Frames per second. Here are a couple of links to help with this discussion:
http://www.tech-notes.tv/Jim/Articles/24_Frame.html (http://www.tech-notes.tv/Jim/Articles/24_Frame.html)

http://www.canopushdv.com/abouthdv/pvsi.html


If you want a CRT that will handle 720p check out this one:
http://www.digitalconnection.com/products/directview/dm7352sf.asp (http://www.digitalconnection.com/products/directview/dm7352sf.asp)

Blue_Tech
07-27-2005, 10:38 PM
That said, I have another question. There isn't any difference between the picture quality of the Sony KV-30HS420 and the KD-30XS955 is there? The only difference is the built-in tuner and the optical port, correct?

I believe the HS model is not equipped with Sony's new Super Fine Pitch Grill like the XS and XBR models.