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1080p programming?

digthis
07-24-2009, 02:58 PM
Hello,
Just bought the panny tc-46s1 at sears for $983.69, I have the dish 622 hd dvr, I had hd but dropped it when the free term run out, I have the silver pack with locals now and would like to upgrade to hd if feasable! As it stands now with most channels already 480p sd and some 720p do I need to upgrade to total hd ? turbo or add hd package and does vod have true 1080p TIA digthis:bowdown:

jim5506
07-24-2009, 10:22 PM
I am not quite sure where you are coming from, but the Silver HD package is $10 more per month and The pushed out VOD on channel 501 is 1080p if your display is natively capable of displaying 1080p24, NOT 1080p60.

The HD receiver interprets each channel according to how you have set the output and whichever connection you have to the receiver.

If you use the coaxal , s-video or composite connection all programming is 480i.

If you use component or HDMI connections, the receiver sends it to your display as either 480p, 720p or 1080i, none of which have anything to do with the resolution that Dish is sending the signal in.

Most HD broadcasts are 1080i, exceptions are ABC, ESPN(s), FOX, and a few other HD channels that are 720p.

If a cable/satellite network is sending out an SD broadcast it is probably still 480i, because most would not bother to just upgrade to digital 480p, they would go to wither 720p or 1080i (why spend any money upgrading and not do it right).

HiDefRev
07-25-2009, 02:02 AM
Yes, Dish does show movies on VOD @ 1080p/24. However, your set is not capable of 1080p/24. Your set only does 1080p/60. It will downconvert to 1080i. All of the other programming on Dish is delivered at 1080i. There are no channels that broadcast at 480p. 480p is only on DVDs. The OTA stations broadcast at 480i, 720p and 1080i.

digthis
07-25-2009, 03:54 AM
hello,
So does dish send a 480i signal for all standard packages and if I get hd silver for $10.00 more is it the same channels as the sd package only in hd? including ppvhd tia

Scottnot
07-25-2009, 09:40 AM
The pushed out VOD on channel 501 is 1080p if your display is natively capable of displaying 1080p24, NOT 1080p60.
I think you're confusing "Input Signal Format" capability with (native)"Display Resolution".
In fact, the OPs set is ONLY (and always) capable of natively displaying 108p/60.

There are only two formats in which 1080p is broadcast; they are 1080p/24 and 1080p/30. (/24 and /30 = frames per second)
There is no 1080p/60 signal format in the ATSC standard at this time.
So, sets may be capable of receiving input singnals of 1080p/24 or 1080p/30 or both. Not sure what the specs are on the OPs set.

The OPs TV of course has a (native) display resolution of 1080p.
I suspect that the display refresh rate is 60Hz.

So if the set is capable of receiving an input signal of 1080p/24, it will display it at 1080p/60.

If the set is capable of receiving an input signal of 1080p/30, it will display it at 1080p/60.

Likewise, it the set receives an input signal of 1080i/60, it will display it at 1080p/60;
if the input signal is 720p/60, it will display it at 1080p/60 and if the input signal is 480i/60 it will display it at 1080p/60.
Whatever the input signal, the set will always display at 1080p, 60Hz refresh rate.

Scottnot
07-25-2009, 09:48 AM
However, your set is not capable of 1080p/24. Your set only does 1080p/60. It will downconvert to 1080i.
The set will never downconvert any input signal.

Again, I think you're confusing Input Signal Format with (native) Display Resolution.
See previous post.

HiDefRev
07-25-2009, 08:39 PM
Sorry....too early in the morning for me to be posting. What I meant was the CABLE BOX would deliver a 1080i signal instead of the 1080p signal since his set is not 1080p/24 capable. Thanks guys for pointing out my mistakes on that one !!! :)

Scottnot
07-26-2009, 07:20 AM
Sorry....too early in the morning for me to be posting.
Never, ever, ever, ever post:
1) before 6:00 am
2) before completing first cup of coffee
3) after 3 or more beers

digthis
07-26-2009, 08:29 AM
So I guess 1080p/24 is high end and that you don't need vod cause you have hdppv. Yeah, it's morning here too!:thumbsup:

lightsout
07-26-2009, 07:43 PM
Sorry....too early in the morning for me to be posting. What I meant was the CABLE BOX would deliver a 1080i signal instead of the 1080p signal since his set is not 1080p/24 capable. Thanks guys for pointing out my mistakes on that one !!! :)
I still think this is wrong. The tv can still accept a 1080p 24 signal, it just cant display it natively.

I have a TC-P42X1 which is a 720p model and I can input a 1080p24 signal.

To the OP if you upgrade your silver package to HD, you will get most but not all your channels in HD. There are still a number of channels that aren't in high def, not a ton but there is some.

digthis
07-27-2009, 06:22 AM
I went with the silver hd it had close to what my wife likes, I remember when we had turbo hd they're was a channel called rave that I really liked, I seen that it's back on hd but probably have to pay a premium for it! As far as the tv goes it has a awesome picture in hd. digthis

Scottnot
07-27-2009, 07:21 AM
I still think this is wrong. The tv can still accept a 1080p 24 signal, it just cant display it natively.

I have a TC-P42X1 which is a 720p model and I can input a 1080p24 signal.
It is odd that some sites report that the only input signal formats that your set is capable of accepting are 480i, 480p, 720p and 1080i; while others also include 1080p, but fail to indicate whether this is /24, /30 or both.

The Panasonic site does not list all of the signal formats, but does indicate that both your set and the OP's set are capable of
"24p Playback(2:3)"; which means that according to Panasonic, both sets accept the 1080p/24 signal and display it at
720p/60 (your set) or 1080p/60 (OP's set).

jim5506
07-27-2009, 01:18 PM
Apparently a 1080p receiver must process the signal at a multiple of 24MHz in order to display Dish Network 1080p.

So, 72 MHz, 120MHZ and 240 MHZ receivers will display 1080p24, a 60 MHz display will not.