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same as ota?

kingleon
06-29-2005, 12:23 PM
First of all i have a 32" 4:3 HDTV. I now only have ota Digital Signals. When things are broadcast in HD I have the small black lines on top and bottom. This doesnt bother me much because the tv is in a small room and all. The programs that are not in HD have those black boxes all around the picture so the picture is small. I then have to zoom and then lose quality.

But anyway to my question. Is Direct TV HD the same way? Will all the stations be presented for a widescreen tv and leave me with all the black boxes around the picture? If so i will just get regular Direct TV and not HD. I just really love the HD signal it is so damn clear.

kingleon
06-29-2005, 11:15 PM
Now i know someone out there has a 4:3 television and has HD.

Blue_Tech
06-30-2005, 12:11 AM
Make/model number of TV please...

I too have a 4:3 HDTV, but SD content is displayed full screen, HD content is letterboxed, just as it should be on these displays.

kingleon
06-30-2005, 02:32 PM
I'm just saying that OTA digital stations do this. I do not have direct tv yet. That is why I was just wondering how it would show up on the screen. How did your tv display the ota digital stations?

1953
06-30-2005, 04:51 PM
To give you advice the make and model of your tv is needed. Especially if it a Sony.

1953

rbinck
06-30-2005, 05:12 PM
The TV will go into the letterbox mode when a 16:9 signal is received. Your local channels are merging the 4:3 material into a black 16:9 frame for broadcast. Your TV thinks it is getting a HD signal because it is format wise, so it will letterbox leaving you with the black bars top and bottom supplied by the TV and the left and right pillar boxes supplied by your TV station. If you are using a separate OTA ATSC tuner (STB) you might try hooking up a SD video connection. Most STBs have a menu for the SD output format. If yours does, then you could watch your SD with the SD input and the HD with the HD input.

RSawdey
06-30-2005, 05:41 PM
This is why I recommend you follow the HDTV standard, and get a widescreen. All digital TV is broadcast widescreen, even when the image is only 4:3. It's logical for the 4:3 image to be smaller, since it's so low res... you need the whole widescreen to show all the detail of HDTV.

kingleon
06-30-2005, 08:31 PM
Sony KV-32HS420 is the TV i have
I have a Samsung 351 tuner hooked to it.

What i want to know is if Direct TV or DISH High Def will be just like what I get OTA or will the stations that are not High Def be the same as if I do not get the HD. If this makes sense its hard to explain.

rbinck
07-01-2005, 10:51 PM
The SD picture for your locals on D* or E* will be full screen as they will only be SD. The picture quality will also be far worse.

You may also be able to connect a SD connection from your 351 to the TV that would allow you to get the SD at full screen.

RSawdey
07-02-2005, 01:06 AM
HDTV is the same, regardless of the method of transmission... all widescreen.

kingleon
07-02-2005, 03:41 AM
HDTV is the same, regardless of the method of transmission... all widescreen.

Ok well I emailed dish and teh guy said teh standard stations wouldnt have those black pillars on them. Who is right?

kingleon
07-02-2005, 08:41 AM
The SD picture for your locals on D* or E* will be full screen as they will only be SD. The picture quality will also be far worse.

You may also be able to connect a SD connection from your 351 to the TV that would allow you to get the SD at full screen.

i have no idea what you are talking about

deepdoc1
07-02-2005, 10:31 AM
Have you looked at Bars, Bars, and More Bars yet? This may answer your questions. Or not.

http://www.highdefforum.com/showthread.php?t=4705