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Best DVD Player for KD34XS955

joshpreston
06-18-2005, 06:12 PM
Hey all,
I've had my KD34XS955 for 6 months now, it's great with HD and all, but my DVD PQ seems to be lacking. I am using a Toshiba SD5970 upconvert, but I guess I should have read more seeing as apparently upconvert players don't really benefit a CRT TV. That being said, what's the best way to go? I actually think component running at 480p looms better than HDMI @ 1080i on my TV. Has anyone else done tinkering with this?

I am also not sure if my TV upconverts anyway, so is having a DVD player that is upconverting as well just adding more noise? Cause the picture looks a bit grainy wehn I run 1080i. I'd love to hear anyone's input!! Also, has anyone gotten the geometry on this set straight? Mine is acceptable, but still can't get a straight horizontal line.
Thanks!

RSawdey
06-19-2005, 02:29 PM
Your TV has as good an upconversion chip as in the player. Reduce 'graininess' by turning off 'sharpness' for digital signals.

joshpreston
06-19-2005, 03:26 PM
What exactly do you mean turn off sharpness? Turn off as in just lower the sharpness setting in the TV menu? Because I am not aware of any feature such as sharpness on of off setting, and my clear edge vm is off if that's what you mean.

RSawdey
06-19-2005, 07:05 PM
Adjust sharpness setting to zero.

rickbbb
06-19-2005, 10:03 PM
I tried setting my sharpness level on my Sony KV-34HS420 TV to zero..like you said to do on the digital channels..the picture became blurred and out of focus.

Blue_Tech
06-19-2005, 10:11 PM
I've had mixed results with "sharpness" settings on Sony TV's, depending on source material. In theory, with HD content, we shouldnt need any sharpness enhancement, since the resolution should be great enough to make sharp edges anyway.

Adjust for your personal preferences, thats all I can say. The purists will say, sharpness enhancement only degrades the picture. Others will say, no enhancement makes it look out of focus. All I can really say is to go for a natural picture, not cartoony or overly razor sharp.

As of current, I keep the VM settings cranked up, but then again, I'm watching alot of SD content on my set.

joshpreston
06-20-2005, 02:11 AM
But back to my original question...

What should I be running for a DVD player? Component at 480p, HDMI at 1080i? Progressive scan or upconvert? Since upconverts aren't recommended for CRTs is it actually better to run component cables on them even though technically it's not as high quality as HDMI?

RSawdey
06-20-2005, 03:08 PM
Upconverts are recommended for TVs with lousy upconversion chips... saying they work better with fixed pixel displays is a myth... they'd also work well with a CRT that had a bad chip. Otherwise, assuming decent upconversion in your TV, they are just redundant.

Since your TV has a good upconverter, I'll guess you won't be able to tell much of a difference between your 480p via component or 1080i via HDMI.

jmccorm
06-20-2005, 03:13 PM
Hey all,
I've had my KD34XS955 for 6 months now, it's great with HD and all, but my DVD PQ seems to be lacking.

Can you be more specific in the way that your DVD PQ is lacking? You mention that the picture is a bit grainy. Is that the only problem you are seeing, and is there anything about it that stands out? All DVDs? Certain ones? Not the menus?

FWIW, I've hook a $35 wal-mart Cyberhome DVD with 480P output over component to my KD-34XBR960. Either it does a darn good job with the image, or I have some pretty low standards. The remote control isn't worth a dollar, though.

Cyberman
06-20-2005, 09:37 PM
My Sony KV30HS420 does a great job on all my components. However the DVD PQ on my JVC progressive-scan player isn't incredible. Maybe I'm just used to viewing movies on TNT HD and HBO HD. Some that I've seen I own on DVD. And I compared the DVDs and prefer the HD PQ over the DVD PQ. I also have a Cyberhome progressive-scan DVD player which gives a decent picture. If there is such a DVD player available now that can produce a true HD picture then I sure would like one!

joshpreston
06-20-2005, 11:02 PM
Well, I would say my main complaint about the DVD picture is that it seems soft and 2 dimensional, where as on my parent's old Mitsubishi 36" tube w/a non progressive DVD player, the picture seems more crisp and 3D. On my Sony it just seems soft and flat. It's still much better than say cable, but it just seems a bit diluted, lacking depth. All DVDs are pretty much the same, some better than others, the menus usually look crappy, fuzzy, and or a tiny bit pixelated. I am also using Movie mode on the TV calibrated with a THX calibration DVD. Thanks for the replies and insight so far!

RSawdey
06-22-2005, 06:21 AM
Make & model of TV & DVD player, and type of connection, please... Do you have the player configured for Widescreen & progressive 480p?

joshpreston
06-22-2005, 07:30 PM
Tv: Sony KD34XS955
DVD: Toshiba SD5970 configured for 16:9, set at 480p w/component cable, or 1080i w/HDMI cable. Not a lot of difference either way.

TerminallyOdd
06-23-2005, 09:03 AM
Same here, man. I'm new to the whole HDTV thing, and I actually had better viewing results on my old Sony 27" Wega (non-HD set) and non-pro scan Toshiba DVD playing using my TV's 16:9 compression mode than I currently do with my Toshiba 30" HDTV (with Pioneer progressive scan player). Everything other than DVD's looks great, as I have the same complaints of blurriness and just a smudged look in movies. The picture just lacks bite. I intentionally have to sit farther away than usually to fool my eye. Yeah, it's saturated and more immersive than an analog set, but watching DVD's on a standard TV just seems much more crisp. The lines are more well-defined. I definitely miss that.

Oh, and so would you suggest that there's no reason to go with an upconverting DVD player with a TV such as yours? You say there's no difference, and I've heard the same from other places.

Also, as someone else mentioned, I think after seeing the glory that are programs and movies in HD (which is the first thing many of us newer HDTV owners do), DVD's pale in comparison. I remember when I didn't know any better and I thought DVD's were as good as it gets as far as home viewing is concerned.

RSawdey
06-23-2005, 11:58 AM
Tv: Sony KD34XS955
DVD: Toshiba SD5970 configured for 16:9, set at 480p w/component cable, or 1080i w/HDMI cable. Not a lot of difference either way.

Just shows the upconversion chip in your TV is just as good as the one in the player...

joshpreston
06-23-2005, 07:15 PM
Yeah, TerminallyOdd, I would have to say there's no reason to throw down and buy a more expensive upconverting player if you're rockin a CRT set. Of course this is ridiculously subjective, but I have spent SO MUCH TIME going back and forth with the dif cables and resolutions and can't see much difference. But you hit the nail on the head, the picture lacks "bite". That's the perfect way to say it. I guess that's just the way it goes?

Big question: Are the TV manufacturers taking the POV that a softer picture supposed to be better?