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Motion blur artifacts?

Joepop
03-13-2009, 08:22 PM
Hey, I just got a new HDTV (a toshiba lv505 15.6), and the picture is beautiful, sharp, bright, and all that. But whenever I get heavy movement in a game/movie, I get a lot of what looks like blurry screen tearing everywhere. I'd post a picture but I can't post URLs without 5 posts.

I believe it's called "interlaced comb artifacts" or atleast that's what I found out. The thing is, I'm using 720p so there should be no interlaced anythnig. It seems to do it more during brighter seens, and it really spoils the whole flow of movement.

Does anyone know how to fix this problem? Or can someone recommend me a good(higher end) 15.6 inch that I can replace this with? I'm using component cables (no HDMI input).

Any help would be REALLY appreciated, thanks.

PFC5
03-13-2009, 08:43 PM
Try to output the source material at the native resolution of your display as a first step. Also turn off any of the noise or contrast "enhancements" as they actually do more harm than good and if the video processing chip cannot handle the load you could get what you are describing. Of course some of it is just LCD not having a fast enough response time for fast motion sometimes too.

Hope this helps & welcome to the forum! :hithere:

HiDefRev
03-13-2009, 08:51 PM
Yes, motion blur is common among LCD displays. There is no way to completely get rid of it. It's the nature of the beast.

Joepop
03-13-2009, 09:00 PM
I've tried all the options on my TV like DNR and picture settings, but nothing really fixes it. I'd understand motion blur, but this is more of a "motion choppiness". It looks kind of flickery in a way.

Is this just how LCD motion blur is, or do I actually have a problem? My TV's responce time is 5ms so I should be fine.

What do you think the best 15.6 inch TV is for about 300?

Thanks for your help.

PFC5
03-13-2009, 09:30 PM
I've tried all the options on my TV like DNR and picture settings, but nothing really fixes it. I'd understand motion blur, but this is more of a "motion choppiness". It looks kind of flickery in a way.

Is this just how LCD motion blur is, or do I actually have a problem? My TV's responce time is 5ms so I should be fine.

What do you think the best 15.6 inch TV is for about 300?

Thanks for your help.

All those options should be turned OFF not on. They cause more problems than solve. Also try turning your contrast & sharpness lower as this can help minimize the issue.

Joepop
03-13-2009, 09:36 PM
That's what I meant. I've turned them all off/on/left/right/etc. They don't seem to have any affect on the problem.

alphanguy
03-13-2009, 11:03 PM
I would sell that sucker on craigslist, and go buy yourself a direct view CRT (Or return it if you can.. that's why it's good to find a place with no restocking fee). There's alot of used ones around, and you won't have any motion blur... you will have dark, inky BLACKS (unlike what plasmas can deliver....You won't pay 2,000$ for the TV, either) and best of all, a burglar won't be able to carry your TV out of your house under his arm. There's been a RASH of more than 30 burglaries in the Kansas City area in the last month..... the perps use a rock or brick to break a window, run in, steal the plat panel... and book it before the cops can even get out of the krispy kreme parking lot. They do this because they are:

1: light and easy to steal
2: the one item brings high dollars
3: they can get out before getting caught

Everyone brags all over the place about how LIGHT the flat panels are, and how horribly HEAVY the CRT's were... yep... those flat panels are LIGHT, allright... light enough to walk right out your door to fund some junkie's crack habit! Just consider the TV a piece of FURNITURE, do people buy couches made of balsa wood because theyr'e LIGHTER?

PioneerElitist
03-13-2009, 11:48 PM
I would sell that sucker on craigslist, and go buy yourself a direct view CRT (Or return it if you can.. that's why it's good to find a place with no restocking fee). There's alot of used ones around, and you won't have any motion blur... you will have dark, inky BLACKS (unlike what plasmas can deliver....You won't pay 2,000$ for the TV, either) and best of all, a burglar won't be able to carry your TV out of your house under his arm. There's been a RASH of more than 30 burglaries in the Kansas City area in the last month..... the perps use a rock or brick to break a window, run in, steal the plat panel... and book it before the cops can even get out of the krispy kreme parking lot. They do this because they are:

1: light and easy to steal
2: the one item brings high dollars
3: they can get out before getting caught

Everyone brags all over the place about how LIGHT the flat panels are, and how horribly HEAVY the CRT's were... yep... those flat panels are LIGHT, allright... light enough to walk right out your door to fund some junkie's crack habit! Just consider the TV a piece of FURNITURE, do people buy couches made of balsa wood because theyr'e LIGHTER?

My TV is 115lbs and is of course a "flat panel".. I would love to see a "perp" throw that under their arm and run off with it. The tvs that are being stolen are most likely 32 inches and smaller... Instead of buying a CRT.. why not just get a brinks system lol. why should one resort to worsening their tech, just for a isolated case in Kansas? There are some reasons to get a CRT, but flat panel thievery would not be one IMO ;)

alphanguy
03-13-2009, 11:59 PM
It's happening all over the country, in every major city. And it's more than just a "few". And these people DO have alarm systems. The crooks are able to steal the flat panel so quickly, and make their getaway before anyone has any chance to respond. They've taken your TV and left in less than 2 minutes. In the case of jewelry, they have to go to the bedroom and LOOK for it, and then they can't tell if it's costume or the real thing. The flat panel is always right in plain view... light enough to carry (most times) and worth more money than any other "portable" appliance in the house... that's why it's better to have a TV that isn't so "portable". But anyway... if you think I'm talking about one isolated incident in Kansas... read this news story about a theft ring in Atlanta... sound isolated to you?

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/stories/2009/03/04/flat_screen_tv_theft.html

Or this:

http://www.tvpredictions.com/flattheft082607.htm

Joepop
03-14-2009, 01:14 PM
Now I agree that CRT are better in ways, but do they come in 16:9 CRTs at 720p?

If there are, please point me that way.

If there aren't, does anyone have experience with a small, good quality LCD HDTV they could recommend to me for around 300 bucks? Or good series that has a 15.6 sized one?

Thanks. I've pretty much given up on fixing this problem, there's not much I can do.