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Samsung HL-R5067W or Panasonic PT-50DL54?

06-15-2005, 12:13 AM
Just found this forum and have been browsing around, trying to find some good info on these two sets. Basically I am debating between the Samsung HL-R5067W or the Panasonic PT-50DL54. I originally found the Samsung online and thought their sets looked pretty good. I am looking for a set that I can use with digital cable, game consoles, and a Mac Mini computer.

The Samsung models seem good, especially with DVI for the computer. However, a friend of mine picked up an older Samsung HLN-5065W and I noticed on non-HD channels and DVDs there was a lag in audio. It seemed a little annoying at times, and I don't really want to deal with having to fix it myself by buying something to delay the audio or waiting till Samsung has a fix.
Does anyone have this audio lag problem with the HL-R5067W?
Does the HL-R5067W no longer have DVI input for a computer?

Now, I recently found the Panasonic PT-50DL54 online and the feedback seems to be good on this model. My only two concerns are:
1. computer hookup - there is no direct dvi, but I have seen dvi->hdmi convertors, does anyone have experience using them? How well do they work?
2. fan noise - some people have expressed concerns with fan noise on this model, but I'm not sure how much of an impact that would have on me.

I've also heard some talk about HD2+ vs HD3, the Panasonic appears to use HD2+, while the Samsung uses HD3, will that difference impact me?

I would appreciate any insight you have to offer on either of these two models. Now it's back to the research...

06-15-2005, 12:37 AM
the audio delay was actually a problem with certain models of the pedestal samsungs...I didn't really hear about any issues with the audio on the bezel ones, but that doesn't mean it wasn't there.

No, the 67w series sadly no longer has DVI, HDMI, and VGA. Best guess is they took it out for the cable card/tuner. But that is one thing that somewhat annoyed me about the new model (granted I still plan on getting it, I have no problem settling for VGA input).

I believe some new video cards are coming with HDMI output, or at the least be DVI-HDCP compatible so you can do DVI>HDMI. Though if you plan to do that you might want to check into one of the models that has dual HDMI inputs (which might only be the 1080p models, I'm not positive).

As to DVI to HDMI without the DVI being HDCP...I'm honestly not sure what effect, if any, that would have.

I'm not familiar with the Panasonic model...so I don't know how many color wheels it has. The HD3 chip will have a better contrast ratio and also has a 7 segment color wheel (most HD2+ have a 6); both of those will improve the picture.

Other people have mentioned briefly what the other differences between the HD2+ vs the HD3 are, but my understanding of it isn't strong enough to give a good explination (hopefully someone else can come along and do that). I believe the HD3 is supposed to have fewer mirrors, but I've not seen the actual specs on them.

oh as far as noise...the samsungs are quiet...the new models are running off of air bearings, and even the old ones that weren't were very smooth (never heard of one being returned because of a noise problem). RCA's on the other hand *shudder*...even in the middle of a store you can hear the whistle of their fan.

06-15-2005, 03:27 PM
Some newer video cards have Component output, and VGA inputs are just as good as DVI.

The HD3 is wobbulated, the HD2+ isn't.

06-15-2005, 05:43 PM
I recently got a HLR-5067W and I'm very happy with it.

I've not really noticed the audio lag some folks mentioned with other Samsungs - maybe I got lucky - or maybe it's not an issue with the HLR-xx67's.

There is not a DVI input on the back of my Samsung - it has a HDMI in for the TV (and component ins of course) and a VGA in for PC's.

Hope that helps with your decision making.