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Black Bars on sides of widescreen tv!

hidefman30
02-13-2009, 12:44 PM
Ok I recently switched to Directv after years of Dish Network. I have Directv's latest and greatest HD DVR reciever now. Now for my problem. Let's take a local channel for instance. I have two choices the HD version or the SD. Both show black bars as if the picture is forced into a 4:3 standard aspect ration. Although the HD version is far clearer. I need the hd channels to strecth and fill the whole screen! I want this thing to work like my old dish network receiever. If there was a channel that didn't fill the screen properly I could hit the # button labled format and it would fill the screen and retain this setting everytime I returned to that channel. After doing this eventually all channels would fill the screen regardless of SD or HD broadcasting. HD movies channels appear to be ok. I have the receiver set to 1080i via hdmi.

hidefman30
02-13-2009, 12:45 PM
Also I want all HD and SD channels to fill the screen entirely. My tv is alway set to16:9 standard aspect ratio. Never had to change that for anything.

Thomas Foolery
02-13-2009, 12:59 PM
Also I want all HD and SD channels to fill the screen entirely. My tv is alway set to16:9 standard aspect ratio. Never had to change that for anything.

On the HDTV tab in your settings set the screen to stretch.

Jodean
02-13-2009, 04:35 PM
dude your watching it how its supposed to be seen.

ive seen alot of morons watching 400lb people on their cool new widescreen.....drives me nuts. If its 4:3 then watch it in 4:3

If its too small that way, you bought a tv thats too small......

Twister
02-13-2009, 06:13 PM
dude your watching it how its supposed to be seen.

ive seen alot of morons watching 400lb people on their cool new widescreen.....drives me nuts. If its 4:3 then watch it in 4:3

If its too small that way, you bought a tv thats too small......

Why are they morons? Because they don't do things the way you think they ought to be? :confused:
I agree... if it's 4:3 then watch 4:3 but if they don't want it that way it doesn't make them morons. Lighten up a little.

justinbwill
02-13-2009, 07:09 PM
Your TV may be set to 16:9 but s your receiver set to 16:9 also. Goto channel 206 is it widescreen (when not on commercial)?

Just b/c it's an HD channel doesn't mean that everything will be in HD. Standard def will have bars and HD will fill your screen.

Just look in your guide ..... if you see an "HD" next to the program listing then it will be in hd 95% of the time. Sometimes the guide lies.

Hope this helps.

But if 206 doesn't fill your screen then your receiver is set to 4:3 and it needs to be changed to 16:9 on the HDTV tab.

erict
02-14-2009, 08:24 AM
Your TV may be set to 16:9 but s your receiver set to 16:9 also. Goto channel 206 is it widescreen (when not on commercial)?

Just b/c it's an HD channel doesn't mean that everything will be in HD. Standard def will have bars and HD will fill your screen.

Just look in your guide ..... if you see an "HD" next to the program listing then it will be in hd 95% of the time. Sometimes the guide lies.

Hope this helps.

But if 206 doesn't fill your screen then your receiver is set to 4:3 and it needs to be changed to 16:9 on the HDTV tab.


Not always. You could be watching an HD movie with bars at the top and bottom aka letterbox. This is normal as this is the way the director intended you to see it. If you want to avoid the bars you have to adjust your TV not your reciever to either "JUST" or "HFILL". Of course this will stretch the image and the picture will look fat but that is your choice if you want to do that. As far as the 4.3 ratio's you just have to adjust your TV to fill the screen and the fat rule applies.

Here is a good read to explain aspect ratio
http://www.cnet.com/1991-7874_1-5140690-4.html

marcallo
02-14-2009, 08:31 AM
Not wanting or understanding pillar/letterbox doesn't make someone a moron. It is a bit crazy though. So long as when you watch HD-Net you are filling the screen or ESPN-HD looks amazing then your TV is working fine. Let the thing fill the screen how it wants to you're better off.

For example my wife watches All My children every day. And for whatever reason they still film in 4:3. So even though we record on the High Def feed it still shows up on the TV in Pillar Box. Were I to stretch it to fill the screen it would look quite bad.

Old season 1 episodes of some dramadies like House will do the exact same thing.

hidefman30
02-14-2009, 10:31 AM
First off to Jodean you are very negative. I often wonder why post a negative comment to someone genuinely looking for some assistance. Get a bigger tv? Are you an idiot? My tv is a 55" plasma, is that big enough? Now onto my problem, I have gone to channel 206 and it is indeed beautiful hd that fills the screen. I just want all the 4:3 channels to stetch and fill the widescreen, I understand all about aspect ratios. I just hate to see 50 percent of the screen filled up no matter what content I am watching. As previously stated I am used to my dish network equipment, so this whole directv reciever is new to me. So to sum up what I need. I don't care if say I am watching a channel that is broadcasting hd then the commercial shows up 4:3. However if a channel is a 4:3 program I want to stretch it to fill the screen. Thanks for any positive input.

erict
02-14-2009, 10:52 AM
First off to Jodean you are very negative. I often wonder why post a negative comment to someone genuinely looking for some assistance. Get a bigger tv? Are you an idiot? My tv is a 55" plasma, is that big enough? Now onto my problem, I have gone to channel 206 and it is indeed beautiful hd that fills the screen. I just want all the 4:3 channels to stetch and fill the widescreen, I understand all about aspect ratios. I just hate to see 50 percent of the screen filled up no matter what content I am watching. As previously stated I am used to my dish network equipment, so this whole directv reciever is new to me. So to sum up what I need. I don't care if say I am watching a channel that is broadcasting hd then the commercial shows up 4:3. However if a channel is a 4:3 program I want to stretch it to fill the screen. Thanks for any positive input.


There should be a format button on your TV remote where you can fill the screen. On my panny the call it "JUST" and "HFILL". I'm not familiar with your Hitachi so I don't know what they call it.

hidefman30
02-16-2009, 04:07 PM
Ok when I hit the aspect ratio button on the tv remote is will stetch the screen. It sucks as I have never had to adjust the tv itself, dish networks reciever automatically remembered any format changes with each individual channel. Apparantly I am going to change manually everytime I see a supposed hd channel show up in 4:3 on my tv. How stupid hd in 4:3? This makes no sense to me. I wish I had dish network back.

jpcamaro70
02-16-2009, 06:47 PM
Your tv will remember the strech setting. Just put the tv in stretch mode and it will stay like that.

Eddie501
02-16-2009, 07:28 PM
There really is only one fix for this via your D* remote if you're intent on stretching a picture on an HD channel. Go into system setup under "HDTV" and tell it you have a 4x3 TV. Since the sidebars are hard coded as part of the picture on the HD channels, it already thinks it's filling the screen so there aren't any zoom options when set to 16x9.

By telling it you have a 4X3 TV it will allow you to cycle through the stretch/crop formats. The 'crop' setting lops off the sidebars and stretches the picture. The only danger of this is if for instance you're watching a 4X3 program zoomed on an HD channel, it's going to keep that zoom until you cycle back to 'original format unaltered' for a real HD program. This setting will restore the proper 16x9 ratio. There really isn't any way for DirecTV (or Dish) to know whether a network is airing a program in 16x9 with sidebars added at the network or in 16x9 with a full picture provided.

Anyway, hope that helps.

Sam Spastic
02-17-2009, 07:57 AM
Well I can actually see where hidefman30 is coming from. My old Sony rear projection set is showing hints of burn-in from the pillar box. But I'd rather have that than fat heads.

Maybe I should just delete any channel that ever shows in 4:3 . Oh wait thats still almost EVERY channel.

RGwhittenbu
02-17-2009, 11:33 AM
I was having exactly the opposite problem, everything was stretched to fill the screen and I like my black bars.

Not sure of which remote you use but you need to use the FORMAT button to select the format for the DirecTV box. Tune to a 4:3 channel and select a format and it will then be that way on all 4:3 broadcasts.

That should work.

bglass0905
02-18-2009, 03:04 PM
On the HDTV tab in your settings set the screen to stretch.

Hit he format button on the Direct TV remote at the top of the remote, on the left

bglass0905
02-18-2009, 03:09 PM
Your tv will remember the strech setting. Just put the tv in stretch mode and it will stay like that.

YOur receiver will too

hidefman30
02-21-2009, 08:18 PM
Ok so the fix was to set the satellite box from 16:9 to 4:3 in hdtv settings. Now all HD channels fill the entire screen. Thanks.