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Telephone Wire

JackVa1
02-07-2009, 11:03 AM
What's with having the phone hookup? I do not order many pay for views but last year I did and had no Phone line. I ended up not getting a bill so I called D* and they said you will be billed when you plug in the phone wire - so three months later I was billed.

Last night I wanted to record an event and I got a message that I neded the phone wire plugged in.

Anyone know the scoop on this?
Thanks

rockaway1836
02-07-2009, 03:46 PM
Yep, it looks like some new firmware has taken the option of PPV away if you are not connected to a phone line. In the old days, you could do it with no problem. As I don't do PPV often at all, I don't know when they made the change. But I did notice it quite a while ago on my H20 receivers. My guess is that you may still be able to do it on older receivers that have not gotten firmware upgrades for years. Again this is just a guess, but I would think anything from an H10 and before may be able to still get PPV without a phone connection. Someone would have to try it to confirm though. I can't, as all of my receivers are H20 and newer.

Jim Bob Jones
02-07-2009, 07:55 PM
If you have access to a computer, order PPV form there and it will be piped to all the receivers in your home. Don't be bullied into that phone thing.

glennb1
02-07-2009, 11:42 PM
If your DVR is connected to the internet you don't need a phone line for PPV anymore.

isszguy
02-08-2009, 01:05 PM
If your DVR is connected to the internet you don't need a phone line for PPV anymore.

I'm getting a new installation installed next month (they claim to be that busy!).

I haven't seen the new receivers yet. How do they hook to the internet? More to the point, do they have a wireless option or is it straight ethernet?

glennb1
02-08-2009, 02:23 PM
I'm getting a new installation installed next month (they claim to be that busy!).

I haven't seen the new receivers yet. How do they hook to the internet? More to the point, do they have a wireless option or is it straight ethernet?

The DVRs don't have wireless networking built into them.
I guess some people use wireless gaming adapters. I've never tried it.

I've got my DVR connected to the internet with ethernet powerline adapters. The router is upstairs, the TV is downstairs. You connect an ethernet cable to the router, plug the other end into a powerline adapter, plug the powerline adapter into a nearby electrical outlet. Down by the TV I have another powerline adapter plugged into an AC outlet with an ethernet cable going from the powerline adapter to the DVR.

isszguy
02-09-2009, 02:18 AM
I've got my DVR connected to the internet with ethernet powerline adapters.

That sounds like a relatively expensive solution at around $50+ for 2 units. I guess I'll either go with the phone line or an ethernet cable.

davecramer74
02-09-2009, 01:28 PM
i dont have a phoneline or internet but ordered the UFC a week or 2 ago. So they havent blocked it on mine. But i may not have latest firmware, dunno. This was on the hr22.

glennb1
02-09-2009, 11:56 PM
That sounds like a relatively expensive solution at around $50+ for 2 units. I guess I'll either go with the phone line or an ethernet cable.

It didn't seem expensive to me. It was a lot better than trying to route an ethernet cable in the narrow crawl space between the first and second floor.

You can't use a phone line for DIRECTV On Demand, you can only do that with an internet connection.

isszguy
02-10-2009, 10:40 AM
It didn't seem expensive to me. It was a lot better than trying to route an ethernet cable in the narrow crawl space between the first and second floor.



Yeah, you're right about that. I was thinking of my situation when I posted that it seemed expensive. I HAVE an ethernet cable that runs just behind the wall (maybe a foot away from where my DTV box will be) and it's just a matter of drilling a hole, installing a connector on the ethernet line and plugging it in.

If it involved anymore other than that, I would be using ethernet powerline adaptors also.

What is really needed for the future is a wireless option on DTV boxes. I have an Apple TV unit that is wireless and works great.

WestDC
02-10-2009, 11:57 AM
Yeah, you're right about that. I was thinking of my situation when I posted that it seemed expensive. I HAVE an ethernet cable that runs just behind the wall (maybe a foot away from where my DTV box will be) and it's just a matter of drilling a hole, installing a connector on the ethernet line and plugging it in.

If it involved anymore other than that, I would be using ethernet powerline adaptors also.

What is really needed for the future is a wireless option on DTV boxes. I have an Apple TV unit that is wireless and works great.

They have that ability now- You can hook up a wireless game adapter to connect to your wireless local network.

Montsta
02-10-2009, 06:21 PM
An added bonus (IMHO) of having the phone line hooked up is that when someone calls your house, the caller id pops up on your screen. It is pretty much the coolest thing ever. I have the extension in my master bedroom with the ringer off, and when someone calls it shows up on screen in there instead of waking up my wife.

Works great at 3 a.m. when one of my online gaming buddies calls and she is sleeping. And sometimes I'm watching a movie with the surround way up and can't hear the phone. I absolutely LOVE that feature!

bimmerz_vn
03-09-2009, 10:19 AM
I've been asked, how would you wire your phone line(s) with CAT5 cable? CAT5 LAN modular connectors (RJ45) have 8 contacts (4 wire pairs); standard telephone jacks (RJ11) have 4 contacts (2 wire pairs).

glennb1
03-09-2009, 10:46 AM
I've been asked, how would you wire your phone line(s) with CAT5 cable? CAT5 LAN modular connectors (RJ45) have 8 contacts (4 wire pairs); standard telephone jacks (RJ11) have 4 contacts (2 wire pairs).

:confused:

We're not talking about connecting CAT5 to the phone line input on the DVR. We're talking about not connecting a phone line to phone input on the DVR, and connecting an ethernet line to the ethernet connector on the DVR.

chirshey
03-09-2009, 10:54 AM
I've been asked, how would you wire your phone line(s) with CAT5 cable? CAT5 LAN modular connectors (RJ45) have 8 contacts (4 wire pairs); standard telephone jacks (RJ11) have 4 contacts (2 wire pairs).

Google "cat5 to RJ11" and you should get pin outs and other helpful info for your question.

raiderfan
03-11-2009, 08:24 AM
sorry guys, but can you can you make this crystal clear for me, cause now i'm a bit confused/worried:

i'm getting an hd dvr upgrade in april. am i going to need to have that reciever connected to the internet or phone line??? i have a regular hd reciever now, and its not connected to either and have always ordered ppv online at directv.com. (problem is i haven't ordered in quite sometime, so do not know if i can still do this).

just want this cleared up because there is no way it can be connected to either!!

chirshey
03-11-2009, 10:30 AM
You'll be good to go without either telephone or internet hooked up.

raiderfan
03-11-2009, 10:35 AM
You'll be good to go without either telephone or internet hooked up.



thank you, sir!! :yippee:

isszguy
03-11-2009, 11:41 AM
just want this cleared up because there is no way it can be connected to either!!

Actually there is. Assuming your phone line is just too hard to route a line to your DVR, there is a wireless option. I'm assuming you have a router. DTV sells two options, one of which uses household wiring and the other is wireless. I recently ordered the wireless unit and then decided to run a 3rd option (ethernet cable) instead. So I cancelled the wireless connection kit (which costs $80 plus shipping/tax).

With the option to be able to DL VOD, this capability seems worth the cost (there is a lot of free video in VOD and also some PPV). And you can then order regular PPV without making a telephone call or getting on the internet to order. IF you don't care 2 hoots about VOD, you can continue making telephone calls to order PPV on your phone. I happen to think for the small charge, having access to VOD is a bargain.

In order of price for this hookup...

1. Your own ethernet cable (I paid $25 for mine).
2. DTV's Internet connection kit ($50).
3. DTV's Wireless Internet connection kit ($80).

The last 2 options above can be viewed at the link below.


https://www.directv.com:443/DTVAPP/mydirectv/cep/myProgrammingKits.jsp?_requestid=2038030

glennb1
03-11-2009, 01:52 PM
just want this cleared up because there is no way it can be connected to either!!

Why not ?

chirshey
03-11-2009, 03:41 PM
Probably doesn't subscribe to internet service and has cell phone only. It could happen.

isszguy
03-11-2009, 05:39 PM
Probably doesn't subscribe to internet service and has cell phone only. It could happen.

Then, how the original post? Dial-up? Either that or on a friend's computer somewhere? If that's the case, as he says "It ain't going to happen."

raiderfan
03-11-2009, 07:18 PM
haha... said it cannot happen because my phone jack is in the next room over, along with my router. i guess physically it could happen, just not going to run wire. didn't know about the wireless device, though. that may be an option. i only order ppv once in a while, and always go on the dtv website to do it. thanks for the ideas though, guys!!