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Two things about speakers:

Pycroft
01-16-2009, 10:22 AM
Hello all,

I recently purchased a new receiver (Onkyo 606) and am thinking of upgrading speakers (Currently Advent Laureate...I guess good for their time). I don't have much to spend (Don't even ask my price range), and am hoping to look online (Ebay, Craigslist) and find some steals. Here are my questions:

1) After reading a lot on here, it seems older speakers can be just as good, if not better, than brand new speakers. Is there a set of speakers that people may not think is worth much anymore that I may be able to find at a bargain? I am willing to buy seperately (Fronts/backs/center seperate) if needed. What do I really need to know to buy them (Is watts the most important, ohms, brand, etc.). Also, how good or bad are my speakers? THe previous owner left them and said they were great when he bought them...professionally installed and everything. Not sure what people's opinions are...they sound fine to me.

2) What are the disadvantages of purchasing used online (Ebay) other than scams? Do speakers degrade with use? If people turn them up too high, or leave them on, can they be in bad shape? Other than cosmetics, what are the drawbacks?

Thanks for any insight.

Pycroft

Loves2Watch
01-16-2009, 11:03 AM
Many negative things can happen to older speakers. Cracked or broken speaker material and rubber surround, damaged voice coils and electronics, just to name a few. You never know what you will be getting when you buy from Craiglist or eBay so I would suggest waiting until you can save a little bit of money.

Here is an example of some super speakers for a very reasonable price - http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/KEFKHT10052GB/KEF/KHT1005.2-5.1-Sattelite-Subwoofer-Speaker-Package-GLOSS-BLACK-/1.html.

Something like that would be a much better idea unless you know for a fact that the older, used speakers are in sound working order and haven't been abused.

clearday
01-16-2009, 12:18 PM
If you have a receiver, which you do, you might want to check out the Polk RM 6750. Really nice surround sound for a smaller room for about $200 at Frys.com.

Pycroft
01-16-2009, 01:34 PM
Then the question is, how do those match up to the speakers I have now? (See above) I'm not sure how mine stack up.

Thanks L2W...Those speakers I've seen from previous posts of yours...out of my price range. That's why I am looking online. I guess if I buy from reputable users, or try them out live (Craigslist purchases), there may not be too much risk (Although some I'm sure). Keep the suggestions coming.

Pycroft

Loves2Watch
01-16-2009, 03:08 PM
These would be great speakers as well but you would need a subwoofer in addition - http://www.onecall.com/ProductDetails.aspx?id=93995

Pycroft
01-19-2009, 06:02 PM
I found a listing...These are 7 years old, original owner. The subwoofer has never been used. Would these be better than my current speakers? Are they good at all?

2 each Polk Audio RT800i front speakers http://www.crutchfield.com/p_107RT800IB/Polk-RT800i-Black.html?search=polk+rt800i&tp=185
2 each RT35i Polk Audio rear surround(bookshelf) speakers http://www.crutchfield.com/p_107RT35IB/Polk-RT35i-Black.html?search=polk+rt35i&tp=186
1 each CS400i Polk Audio center channel speaker http://www.crutchfield.com/p_107CS400IB/Polk-CS400i.html?search=polk+cs400i&tp=189
1 each Polk Audio PSW10 subwoofer http://www.crutchfield.com/g_12300/Powered-Subwoofers.html?search=polk%2bpsw10&skipvs=T

They are all discontinued, which can't be a good sign...I'm hoping someone has them and can comment, especially if you can compare to the system I have (See above posts). Would this be a huge upgrade?

Thanks,

Pycroft

kamspy
01-19-2009, 10:10 PM
I found a listing...These are 7 years old, original owner. The subwoofer has never been used. Would these be better than my current speakers? Are they good at all?

2 each Polk Audio RT800i front speakers http://www.crutchfield.com/p_107RT800IB/Polk-RT800i-Black.html?search=polk+rt800i&tp=185
2 each RT35i Polk Audio rear surround(bookshelf) speakers http://www.crutchfield.com/p_107RT35IB/Polk-RT35i-Black.html?search=polk+rt35i&tp=186
1 each CS400i Polk Audio center channel speaker http://www.crutchfield.com/p_107CS400IB/Polk-CS400i.html?search=polk+cs400i&tp=189
1 each Polk Audio PSW10 subwoofer http://www.crutchfield.com/g_12300/Powered-Subwoofers.html?search=polk%2bpsw10&skipvs=T

They are all discontinued, which can't be a good sign...I'm hoping someone has them and can comment, especially if you can compare to the system I have (See above posts). Would this be a huge upgrade?

Thanks,

Pycroft

I like my Polks. Those look fine spec wise.

Just make sure the drivers are all in good shape.

What's the asking price?

Pycroft
01-19-2009, 10:26 PM
The owner (Original owner he says) was asking 700 for the speakers and the receiver (Older Denon). It's been listed for some time. I was hoping to give a lowball offer and see if I get lucky. maybe 175, 200??? Would that be offensive for those speakers? They are 7 years old, and he's already upgraded, so I'm hoping he just wants to get rid of them. Let me know. Also, I just have this feeling that my speakers aren't all that bad. I know Advent went out of business, but while listening to a BD tonight, I was amazed. I guess I may not know what I'm missing, but how would those compare to my Advent setup? Would it blow it away?

Pycroft

kamspy
01-20-2009, 04:38 AM
The owner (Original owner he says) was asking 700 for the speakers and the receiver (Older Denon). It's been listed for some time. I was hoping to give a lowball offer and see if I get lucky. maybe 175, 200??? Would that be offensive for those speakers? They are 7 years old, and he's already upgraded, so I'm hoping he just wants to get rid of them. Let me know. Also, I just have this feeling that my speakers aren't all that bad. I know Advent went out of business, but while listening to a BD tonight, I was amazed. I guess I may not know what I'm missing, but how would those compare to my Advent setup? Would it blow it away?

Pycroft

If you can find out what material the drivers of the Advent is, you could look for a center channel that matches as close as possible.

Surrounds aren't as important timbre-wise.


$700 seems a bit high. Depends on what level Denon we're talking. Do you have a model number on it?

I think $500 would be fair if it was a mid level Denon. (Pending everything is in working order).

$175-$200 would be a major lowball.

Those towers cost more than $200 a piece when they came out.