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No difference between DVD and Blu-ray...help

groc426
12-24-2008, 09:02 PM
Hello-
I'm new here, but I have been researching through the forums but haven't found an answer. So perhaps some of you may help. Perhaps there is no help:)

I have a LG 42" (PC3D model) 720p Plasma tv hooked up to a ps3 with HDMI cable. When I play blu-ray discs i receive nearly the same (if not the same) quality of image as with any of my dvds or regular tv programming. I was amazed at the difference between regular tv programming and HDTV, but blu-ray has really disappointed me. Gaming also appears to be higher quality.

So, does anybody have any suggestions on things I should check? Or is this just the way it is?

I'm new with the whole high-def scene so your help and patience is appreciated. Thank you!

emacs
12-24-2008, 09:20 PM
I have a LG 42" (PC3D model) 720p Plasma tv hooked up to a ps3 with HDMI cable. When I play blu-ray discs i receive nearly the same (if not the same) quality of image as with any of my dvds or regular tv programming. I was amazed at the difference between regular tv programming and HDTV, but blu-ray has really disappointed me.

image quality depends on the source material. many films on Blu-ray originate from analogue (i.e., film stock). last year many studios simply did a rush job in mastering their Blu-ray editions. a growing number, however, have undergone much more care in preparing the material for release in high-definition.

among the films that truly show the fidelity of high definition are: Dark Knight, Iron Man, Blade Runner, Blue Planet, Baraka and all Pixar films. i suggest reading the reviews over at http://www.blu-ray.com/ for details on which films truly shine on Blu-ray.

groc426
12-24-2008, 09:48 PM
emacs- thank you for the response. One of the blu-ray discs tried was in fact Iron Man. Still little to no difference between the quality of a dvd and with blu-ray.

rbinck
12-24-2008, 11:42 PM
emacs- thank you for the response. One of the blu-ray discs tried was in fact Iron Man. Still little to no difference between the quality of a dvd and with blu-ray.
Are you comparing a SD DVD to a Blu-ray disc of the same movie? If so, maybe your Blu-ray player needs its output format set to HD. Either 720p or 1080i.

emacs
12-25-2008, 12:04 AM
Still little to no difference between the quality of a dvd and with blu-ray.

the fidelity available on Blu-ray will show the imperfections in film stock that includes grain and other defects. the HD broadcasts are pure digital; most films are still analogue sources.

it's also worthwhile to properly calibrate your display. here's a good place to start http://www.highdefforum.com/isf-calibration-35/

emacs
12-25-2008, 12:29 AM
maybe your Blu-ray player needs its output format set to HD. Either 720p or 1080i.

the PS3 can upconvert standard definition DVD to rather impressive levels. i wouldn't be surprised if groc426 is comparing Blu-ray against a masterful DVD transfer upconverted by the console ;)

mschupp
12-25-2008, 03:03 PM
emacs- thank you for the response. One of the blu-ray discs tried was in fact Iron Man. Still little to no difference between the quality of a dvd and with blu-ray.

How close are you to the set?
Get something from Paramount (like the new Indiana Jones movie) and watch the opening sequence with the Paramount logo from about 6 feet away. You should see lots of detail in the mountain. The actual movie content can vary a lot.

Loves2Watch
12-25-2008, 09:49 PM
Are you sure the PS3 is set to output 720p or 1080i?

Scottnot
12-26-2008, 08:32 AM
Despite claims to the contrary, 35mm film does not scan very high at all, at 1080p its pretty grainy.
What planet do you live on?

Loves2Watch
12-26-2008, 03:12 PM
Obviously you've never watched HD, its ok.

Actually 35mm film has a much higher resolution then 1080p. Only if the transfer was not done correctly or was done hastily would you see grain in the film (unless it was/is supposed to be there as the director intended). Most of the film transfers I have seen (count MANY) have looked excellent without any grain at all.


Obviously you haven't been watching the right films or do not have your equipment connected and calibrated correctly.
HINT: Turn the sharpness off on your TV.

emacs
12-26-2008, 06:04 PM
Actually 35mm film has a much higher resolution then 1080p.

i agree. those silver nitrate molecules suspended in the gelatin are very tiny. for archival purposes i believe 35mm film is scanned at 2K or 4K.

groc426
01-02-2009, 01:13 PM
I've been out of town for the holidays and just returned. Thank you for all your responses.

rbinck - The ps3 is set to 720p.

emacs- Thank you for the page on calibration. I will look through some posts and see if I can't figure some things out.

mschupp- I am probably only 6 feet away in my lazy-boy.

Unless emacs theory on my ps3 upconverting my standard dvd's to a much higher quality, then I am at a loss. Still, HDTV is simply amazing. I wish Blu-ray would be very similar in quality.

Loves2Watch
01-02-2009, 02:12 PM
I've been out of town for the holidays and just returned. Thank you for all your responses.

rbinck - The ps3 is set to 720p.

emacs- Thank you for the page on calibration. I will look through some posts and see if I can't figure some things out.

mschupp- I am probably only 6 feet away in my lazy-boy.

Unless emacs theory on my ps3 upconverting my standard dvd's to a much higher quality, then I am at a loss. Still, HDTV is simply amazing. I wish Blu-ray would be very similar in quality.

Blu-ray IS currently the best available to the consumer.

DexterMorgan
01-02-2009, 02:46 PM
most people won't tell too much of a difference between well up-scaled DVD's and 720p content on movies unless viewing text or something sharp. If you are watching something like 2 people talking, it can be hard to tell the difference.

i think a 42" 1080p native TV would yield more noticeable results.

pfh
01-03-2009, 08:08 AM
Same thing I was thinking DexterM. A 1080p set would show more difference.

smoothmonte
01-05-2009, 10:19 PM
My 2 cents on this debate I can tell the difference on a 720p its in the small details in the background Bluray gives depth of detail upconvert DVD players don't produce the small background details nothing there for the upconvert to reproduce.

emacs
01-09-2009, 06:29 PM
I can tell the difference on a 720p ... upconvert DVD players don't produce the small background details nothing there for the upconvert to reproduce.

that's a possibility. anyways, Iron Man (2008) is probably a poor example to show differences between upconverted SD and HD because that film was mastered very, very well.

Halo360Fan
01-12-2009, 10:40 AM
like others have said it depends on the blu-ray disk. Knocked up and death race looks pretty bad for a blu-ray movie. But Dark Knight Iron man, resident evil regeneration look outstanding!

Benzodiazepine
01-15-2009, 08:50 PM
It's kinda strange for me.
This is the first time I've seen someone is having problem with Blu-Ray quality.
And wishing it to be like DVD.
Something goes wrong.


Please keep updating,
so we know how is it like now?